Posted on 08/21/2005 2:45:32 PM PDT by dukeman
The DUers are starting to cut through the fog and ponder reality:
liberalismresurgent (92 posts) Sun Aug-21-05 03:58 PM
Original message
Why do more people visit Freerepublic than DU?
My analysis:
They are a right wingers, pure and passionate ones at it. The more right wing a matter is, the more they embrace it and support it. They are a cohesive whole.
We are not.
Opinions please.
JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
1. It is a whole lot easier to hate, than to love and respect humanity
zippy890 (880 posts)
Response to Reply #1
39. they are a cohesive hole
[I thought these first two replies just went well together!]
roguevalley (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
3. some people need to hear themselves echoed back. this is true because any dissent is deleted immediately. they are self perpetuating delusional. its easier for some people to be told what to think than to actually think for themselves. thinking for yourselves means to be critical and seeking. lots of people also hit and run, logging in off and on all day long.
yeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts)
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4. How do you know this ?
Do you have a way of counting FR's hits, or are you relying on a counter on their site, etc? Personally, I wouldn't trust a thing any of those people would say about their traffic.
And I know a few DUers who are brave enough to visit from time to time, so you can't say everyone who visits is a passionate right winger.
As for cohesive whole, that is an illusion, and one that they try to maintain via smoke and mirrors. The media hypes their cause, and always seems to make their numbers and clout seem greater than they really are.
llflem (1000+ posts)
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5. The extreme right-wing in this country is a lot like ants.
If something is a potential threat to the rest of the hive, they go out and attack. They may not even know why or what they're attacking, they just follow the rest of the hive because it's instinct to follow everyone else.
[Yes, genius, we all live in an ant "hive."]
Kagemusha (1000+ posts)
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7. FR was big before DU was. That's part of it. Things get bigger with age on the Net, generally.
I was on FR ages ago when there was still such a thing as an agnostic economic conservative. (well, not that the economic conservatism stood up to time as I learned more about economics, but it wasn't all "intelligent falling" all the time, to use the latest terminology)
Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
9. Here is a better question.... Who gives a big fat hairy rats ass?
Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
10. They don't whine & censor strong posts which represent the 'hard right...'
Over at DU, the subtle infiltrators and trolls are allowed to post unmolested and control the 'tone' of the board (constantly moving DU to the 'middle,') while those (of us) on the Left (and/or 'hard Left') are constantly scrutinized, for fear of offending the moderates.
To wit: a post of mine was removed by the mods in the fall of 2004 for calling Joe Lieberman 'Joe LieberBush.' Freerepublic.com would not have censored a member for a similar comment about a 'moderate' Republican.
Freerepublic.com immediately removes/bans people who infiltrate their group. Hence, their members can enjoy reading and posting on their board.
BTW, just to clarify, I am an opponent of the Reichwing - I do not support freerepublic.com's viewpoints/beliefs.
Lori Price
[!#@*#!@ Freeper troll!]
crispini (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #10
13. Wow, nice!
Implying that all moderate Dems are subtle infiltrators and trolls! Good job!
Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #13
22. NO, no, no. Not what I meant. I meant, the tone of this board should...
be defined as 'hard Left' as the 'other side' is allowed to go 'full court press' with their views/tactics. That is why they (unfortunately) remain in power.
Lori
tx_dem41 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #10
20. You don't support them.....
you just want to be like them. Got it.
evermind (578 posts)
Response to Original message
21. The Left always factionalises more than the Right - probably because the Left is more interested in integrity and truth, whereas the Right is more focussed on winning at any cost (and mutual reinforcement of delusional belief systems ) imho.
porphyrian (1000+ posts)
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26. Because half the DUers spend their time over there. I don't understand it, but they do. I guess it likens to the appeal of American Idol and other mindless forms of substandard entertainment.
Catholic Sensation (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
27. Probably because Free Republic:
has more registered and active members
is mentioned frequently by Limbaugh, Hannity, and other right wing media personalities with vast audiences
and has been around much longer than DU I believe.
liberalismresurgent (92 posts)
Response to Reply #27
32. We advertise the freepers a lot too The number of posts containing the word "Freeper" in the title is alarming.
We are constantly referring to them. Maybe it is time to tone down that habit.
[Shhhhhh! You'll wake the others.]
Catholic Sensation (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #32
36. yeah that will never happen
for some reason some people on this board care what free republic, "that other site", and other places think about them or democratic underground. There's too much vanity among some people here for toning down linking to FR, "the other site", etc. to ever happen.
laureloak (142 posts)
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34. They need more instructions on what to say than DUers?
mbee (808 posts)
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44. Don't personally visit there, but some of the posts I've seen listed
here seem to indicate that most of the activity on there is not at all intellectual. Their purpose appears to be to either bash the Clintons, Gore, Kerry or bully anyone who doesn't accept on faith the neocon plans for our country. Mostly the postings usually have many mispelled words and it is obvious a lot of the people do not read or try to become informed.
proud2Blib (1000+ posts)
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50. There is a majority of stupid people in the US I can't honestly think of another reason.
Maybe koolaid in the drinking fountains?
[See JohnnyBoots' post above re "loving and respecting humanity."]
Veganistan (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
61. Oh, I think it's because of their attractive interface and the abundance of thought provoking and original ideas that spring forth
Honestly? Being a part of DU is a lot more work. You have to consider different sides of the issues and do some serious thinking for yourself here. Not real high on either their list of available skills or priorities. FreakRepublic is easy. It's the sound of one hand clapping in a echo chamber. Listen to your AM radio, log on and repeat. Continue until you ARE the kool-aid. Continue until zombie Jesus tells you what to do next.
"Does this place depress the hell out of anybody else?"
Yeah, I remember that one.
bump for later reading, otta be fun
I can't imagine why folks would come to FR instead of going to the DU.
As Ronald Reagan might say to the liberals, "why is your crystal ball so dark and cloudy all the time?"
I think the reason more people visit Free Republic is that we're in the spirit of Reagan. We love our country, and we love our fellow man. We are positive. We believe that America is the Shining City on a Hill.
When you go to places like DU, they're full of blame and hatred. They don't have one single positive thing to say about America. They sound like they're ashamed to live here. They hold large groups of people in contempt. People find them repulsive.
But even if FR got fewer visitors that DU, my advise? Don't change a thing! You guys are wonderful people!
FreeRepublic didn't ban me for posting what a racist Machiavellian scumbag Jesse Helms is, they allow diversity of opinion.
Let's see here... In the past, I've attacked Sharon's policies and been labeled an antisemitic on FR for it. I've advocated a more libertarian approach to treatment of homosexual Americans and been called a Stockholm Syndrome case (and worse) for it. I brought cold hard facts to the Schiavo case, debunking the myths her parent's built, and been attacked for it. I've warned against allowing any particular faith to have undo influence when adverse to the public good and civil virtue. I'm sure there are other cases but NEVER have my posts been removed for content (except by my request when I accidentally do a double-post, for example). I criticize Bush on his open border policies, on his amnesty scheme, on embracing pork and overspending, on not waging an effective campaign at home in support of the Iraq War.
I try to argue from a place of conviction (and hopefully facts), not Republican or Democrat talking points. I'm not a litmus test kook. FR offers many informed opinions, discussion, activism and outright debate. There *is* diversity of thought here. We just look down upon the delusions espoused by Leftist activists who pursue an undeniable anti-American agenda and the Mainstream Press who act as their transcription services.
It's evident from the DU posts you sampled, and my own rare forays into their lair, they have uncontrollable hatred from Republicans, for Bush and do not examine their dogmatic positions. "Multiculturalism" being one example. There's a world of difference between "bigotry" and a heartfelt concern for the safety, security and prosperity of *both* immigrants and natives. If you care about immigrants you *want* them to assimilate and embrace American values rather than continue their old culture's often women-demeaning values.
We became great as a MELTING POT, not a confederation of self-segregating interest groups. The BIG LIE from the Left is their slippery rhetorical games equating the two radically different immigration patterns. Right now, the RINO economic Republicans love illegal immigration for use as defacto slave labor and the racist left loves illegal immigration for raw political power and a sledgehammer to use to misinform public opinion and indoctrinate the next generation.
As for the DU, if the Barking Moon Bat's wings fit...
They have to ask?
Oh this is too good. Thanks for the laughs!
Imagine if they regained power in government.
http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html
It really is hilarious. Many of them write in a very stream of consciousness style, so you really get a feel for how they think. Hatred, paranoia, and an inflated sense of self importance run rampant.
Because unlike DU, FR doesn't suck.
They are a cohesive whole.
Could've fooled me.
Most of us already know that, but it's a reality best learned personally, first hand.
The realization has the power to transform, and explains their conviction that they would win the 2004 elections by a landslide
Liberals are few in number compared to mainstream America, so they won't have a lot of people interested in their small minded, hate filled rants.
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