HS Lesbian Sues Over Locker Ban

NY Post ^ | 2002-12-18 | Reuters

[Lorenb420]

December 18, 2002 -- LOS ANGELES - A 15-year-old student who was banned from the girl's locker room at her school because she is a lesbian filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit yesterday in a case that tests the rights of gay students.

[DonaldC]

"The lesbian, misguided female that she is, is still a teenager, too, and can be made to feel just as uncomfortable as any other girl."

hehehe...that is kinda the idea. Making deviant groups uncomfortable is how society nudges them onto the right and proper path.

[homeschool mama]

I never made that assumption.

You said high school males should be in the same locker room with girls because some of them were ugly. So with your logic, if all the girls were lovely it'd be okay? Sheesh. That's why I used sarcasm, toots.

[BikerNYC]

hehehe...that is kinda the idea. Making deviant groups uncomfortable is how society nudges them onto the right and proper path.

Individuality is great, as long as we all do it together.

[lsee]

You're just awful! :)

[homeschool mama]

Those choosing an alternative lifestyle use the victim approach but in reality have the power due to the PC crud.

One of our phys ed teachers was lesbian. She'd sit in her chair and watch the girls showering. Uncomfortable? You betcha.

[StriperSniper]

access to the shower room

You know, I have been wanting to cover tennis, when does Anna Kournikova come back to town?;-)

[jimt]

If the girl in question had not made an issue of it through her behavior how would anyone have known?

It's another case of "You have to accept me and my behavior whether you like it or not." Horse puckey.

[wimpycat]

Well, if it makes you feel more of a man by picking on children, you go right ahead. I think she gets the message now anyway and will fly straight from now on....*snicker*.

What she'll get is a lawsuit that she'll likely win if there are no extenuating circumstances, reinforcing the gay-rights agenda, and further emboldening them to press on for even bigger and better things.

[jimt]

There are 2 lesbians who work in my office.

How do you know? There are probably several people in my workplace who are gay, but they're smart enough to know it's their private business and others don't want to hear about it.

It works out well for everybody.

[truenospinzone]

You said high school males should be in the same locker room with girls because some of them were ugly. So with your logic, if all the girls were lovely it'd be okay?

Again, I have absolutely no idea how you gleaned either of those statements from what I actually said, and I have a feeling that most of the people who read it actually understood the point I was making. I'd try to explain it to you furthur, but I have a feeling that attempting to have a rational, civil discourse with someone who uses words like "putz" and "toots" would just give me a headache.

[DonaldC]

When evil triumps, it is no less evil.

This is not a case of a man picking on children. This is a case where adults need to teach right and wrong to children, a process that has clearly failed for 40 years or more. So let's just give up and throw in the towel, let homosexuals have their way and next we can bring in pedophiles. Whey should they be made to feel bad!

This issue is not over just one girl. It is over the future of a society. Are we to allow anything and everything or are there boundaries? Where do we draw the line if not with homosexuals?

[wimpycat]

I know because one of them was dating yet another lesbian at a different location.

Nobody talks about it, though. They're not activists at all, but they don't try to hide it, either. And they happen to be very good at their jobs.

[TakeitBack]

I'm shocked that she was treated this way in a school in CALIFORNIA!!!

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Lots of blather, but what, exactly, is your solution to the problem? Should every school now be required to build FOUR locker rooms instead of two---one for boys, homosexual boys, girls, and lesbians---so that everyone can feel comfortable? Or perhaps it should be six, including the transgendered or transsexual of either "gender." Not exactly much of a "conservative" solution to the problem . . .

Homohaters create just as much trouble as liberals.

[wimpycat]

I'm not telling you what should happen. I'm telling you what probably will happen.

[Protagoras]

Abolishment of government schools would solve this problem along with most other school problems cited on this forum.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Heaven forbid the men of a neighborhood go and give the newly moved in "rehabilitated" sex-offender a "talking-to" about acceptable and unnacceptable behavior, and the consequences thereof ...

At least in my neighborhood, we are still allowed to run down street criminals on foot and knock them around a bit while waiting for the squad car to come. "Yeah officer? That big gash on the forehead of the mugger? That must have been when he tripped and fell into the curb. He only tripped eight or nine times ..."

[MadIvan]

I think it's important to point out why there is a gender division in changing rooms in the first place - it has nothing to do with actual gender, it has to do with the fact that it is unseemly to even have the suggestion that a changing room is akin to a peep show. This separation presumes that modesty is still a virtue that people wish to preserve.

Having a gay or lesbian person in a locker room throws a curveball into the equation. While their gender is one way, the "peep show" element is another.

What would be most fair in this instance is to ask the other girls who have to change with her, if they are uncomfortable with this lesbian girl (though I take what a 15 year old has to say about anything with a grain of salt) seeing them change. After all, it is they who may have to deal with the possible hint of sexual attraction in the locker room that this girl's presence provides. If they're uncomfortable, out she goes, if not, leave it alone.

Regards, Ivan

[homeschool mama]

***I'm not saying that high school males should be able to dress with high school females because some of them are ugly. Just making a slightly off-topic point.***

***Again, I have absolutely no idea how you gleaned either of those statements from what I actually said, and I have a feeling that most of the people who read it actually understood the point I was making. I'd try to explain it to you furthur, but I have a feeling that attempting to have a rational, civil discourse with someone who uses words like "putz" and "toots" would just give me a headache.***

Your original statement is hardly rational and civil discourse. Get a clue.

[homeschool mama]

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