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To: Tribune7
My point, actually, is that there is more than one theory of evolution being discussed in our culture. I was actually taught the all encompassing view in my high school.

What you say is correct. Evolution is sort of the keystone of the materialist/atheist axis of evil. This axis includes abiogenesis and random universe theory. It seeks to replace God with 'natural forces' and 'random ordering' (no matter how silly such a thing sounds). All the members of this godless axis know that they must fight together against religion because they know that if God is admitted in any of these fields then all the theories in the axis of evil fall apart.

4,054 posted on 01/08/2003 9:48:19 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Yeah, that's it, it's all a big conspiracy G3K, SHEESH!!

Public schools are secular, they are not allowed to favor one religion over another. You wish your children to learn about Pagans ideas of creation, how about Hindu, or perhaps druidic notions?

Is that what you are aching for G3K, because that is EXACTLY what would happen. As long as science is taught in a secular fashion, without any notions of god, it will remain the way it is, teaching of fact and theory, but once you open the can of worms with ID/creationism and other religious doctrine, you will have opened the floodgate to the teachings of those others as well.

Is that what you are aching for?

Fact of the matter is, if parents care so much about what their childrens religious upbringing is, then they will do it themselves, or are you afraid that parents will not teach their children what you are hoping they are being taught?

You are going for a pandoras box that will not be closed once it is opened.

Evolution is a scientific theory and therefore should be taught in science class as that, creationism is religious, as is ID, THAT should be taught at home or at a private school.

Once you teach one religion, you had better be ready to teach the rest.
4,059 posted on 01/08/2003 10:02:21 PM PST by Aric2000 (The Theory of Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are Religious, Any Questions?)
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To: gore3000
gore3000 spouted "godless axis know that they must fight together against religion because they know that if God is admitted in any of these fields then all the theories in the axis of evil fall apart. "

Since I am one of those members of your so called "godless axis" Let me be the first to say God might exist but his existence is irrelevant in this discussion. Evolution occurred we don't know every little detail but it happened, the world is older than 6000 years old but I can't tell you the exact date, and there was a big bang but I can't tell you if it was the first cause of the universe. I cannot tell you there is a god he doesn't provide any evidence for his existence.


May I ask a second question? If the Earth is 6000 (and by logic the universe began at the same time as the earth if we take Genesis literally) how come that light from stars more than 6000 light years away have already reached the earth? Hmmm logically if the universe was 6000 years old than that light couldn't get here.




How old is the Universe?
4,074 posted on 01/09/2003 3:11:06 AM PST by Sentis
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To: gore3000
Evolution is sort of the keystone of the materialist/atheist axis of evil.

It is always interesting to hear that ideas, in and of themselves, can be evil. I suppose the list of evil ideas includes doubt, skepticism, curiosity (wasn't the desire for knowledge the original sin).

4,096 posted on 01/09/2003 7:35:34 AM PST by js1138
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To: gore3000
God exists regardless of intellectual fashion. I've been trying to make clear that one can be a rational respecter of science and still devoutly believe in Him and in the miracles of the Bible.
4,138 posted on 01/09/2003 10:28:04 AM PST by Tribune7
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