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To: gore3000
gore3000 spouted "godless axis know that they must fight together against religion because they know that if God is admitted in any of these fields then all the theories in the axis of evil fall apart. "

Since I am one of those members of your so called "godless axis" Let me be the first to say God might exist but his existence is irrelevant in this discussion. Evolution occurred we don't know every little detail but it happened, the world is older than 6000 years old but I can't tell you the exact date, and there was a big bang but I can't tell you if it was the first cause of the universe. I cannot tell you there is a god he doesn't provide any evidence for his existence.


May I ask a second question? If the Earth is 6000 (and by logic the universe began at the same time as the earth if we take Genesis literally) how come that light from stars more than 6000 light years away have already reached the earth? Hmmm logically if the universe was 6000 years old than that light couldn't get here.




How old is the Universe?
4,074 posted on 01/09/2003 3:11:06 AM PST by Sentis
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To: Sentis
Since I am one of those members of your so called "godless axis" Let me be the first to say God might exist but his existence is irrelevant in this discussion.

Of course it is relevant Vade. Evolution is materialistic and if God is said to exist materialism is dead. If God exists there is no reason to believe that some mysterious random nonsense created all the species on Earth. If God exists there is no reason to believe that man descended from lower species. Further since you also believe in abiogenesis and random creation of the Universe this would also be totally discredited by the existence of God.

More important really is to consider the reasons for the existence of this axis of evil. The folk that support these theories do not do so for the sake of science, they do so for the sake of justifying their atheism. People do not hold to their views do to their great adherence to science. They do so because it justifies their irreligious views. That is why they claim that any other scientific explanation is a religious one in order to keep other views which allow for the possibility of a Creator out of the schools.

Neither I nor the Bible says that the Earth is 6000 years old. As usual, you and your friends are arguing against a strawman because you cannot argue the facts. It also shows that when people want to argue the science of your theory you turn the discussion to an attack on the religion which you hate so much that it affects all your other views.

4,081 posted on 01/09/2003 6:00:10 AM PST by gore3000
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