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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

By WILL SENTELL

wsentell@theadvocate.com

Capitol news bureau

High school biology textbooks would include a disclaimer that evolution is only a theory under a change approved Tuesday by a committee of the state's top school board.

If the disclaimer wins final approval, it would apparently make Louisiana just the second state in the nation with such a provision. The other is Alabama, which is the model for the disclaimer backers want in Louisiana.

Alabama approved its policy six or seven years ago after extensive controversy that included questions over the religious overtones of the issue.

The change approved Tuesday requires Louisiana education officials to check on details for getting publishers to add the disclaimer to biology textbooks.

It won approval in the board's Student and School Standards/ Instruction Committee after a sometimes contentious session.

"I don't believe I evolved from some primate," said Jim Stafford, a board member from Monroe. Stafford said evolution should be offered as a theory, not fact.

Whether the proposal will win approval by the full state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education on Thursday is unclear.

Paul Pastorek of New Orleans, president of the board, said he will oppose the addition.

"I am not prepared to go back to the Dark Ages," Pastorek said.

"I don't think state boards should dictate editorial content of school textbooks," he said. "We shouldn't be involved with that."

Donna Contois of Metairie, chairwoman of the committee that approved the change, said afterward she could not say whether it will win approval by the full board.

The disclaimer under consideration says the theory of evolution "still leaves many unanswered questions about the origin of life.

"Study hard and keep an open mind," it says. "Someday you may contribute to the theories of how living things appeared on earth."

Backers say the addition would be inserted in the front of biology textbooks used by students in grades 9-12, possibly next fall.

The issue surfaced when a committee of the board prepared to approve dozens of textbooks used by both public and nonpublic schools. The list was recommended by a separate panel that reviews textbooks every seven years.

A handful of citizens, one armed with a copy of Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species," complained that biology textbooks used now are one-sided in promoting evolution uncritically and are riddled with factual errors.

"If we give them all the facts to make up their mind, we have educated them," Darrell White of Baton Rouge said of students. "Otherwise we have indoctrinated them."

Darwin wrote that individuals with certain characteristics enjoy an edge over their peers and life forms developed gradually millions of years ago.

Backers bristled at suggestions that they favor the teaching of creationism, which says that life began about 6,000 years ago in a process described in the Bible's Book of Genesis.

White said he is the father of seven children, including a 10th-grader at a public high school in Baton Rouge.

He said he reviewed 21 science textbooks for use by middle and high school students. White called Darwin's book "racist and sexist" and said students are entitled to know more about controversy that swirls around the theory.

"If nothing else, put a disclaimer in the front of the textbooks," White said.

John Oller Jr., a professor at the University of Louisiana-Lafayette, also criticized the accuracy of science textbooks under review. Oller said he was appearing on behalf of the Louisiana Family Forum, a Christian lobbying group.

Oller said the state should force publishers to offer alternatives, correct mistakes in textbooks and fill in gaps in science teachings. "We are talking about major falsehoods that should be addressed," he said.

Linda Johnson of Plaquemine, a member of the board, said she supports the change. Johnson said the new message of evolution "will encourage students to go after the facts."


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KEYWORDS: crevolist; evolution; rades
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To: Condorman
color-coded thread retardant? Heehee! It's as if everything is suddenly cast in black and white!
4,421 posted on 01/10/2003 11:32:51 AM PST by Condorman (Lost: Black and white male cat. Answers to electric can opener.)
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To: f.Christian
Thank you for the definition!
4,422 posted on 01/10/2003 11:33:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: js1138
Good point. They are consistent, not true. TRVTH belongs to philosophy, not mathematics.
4,423 posted on 01/10/2003 11:36:18 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Truth is never pure, and rarely simple. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I am personally thankful for the relative lack of "news" this week. My son lives in Manhattan, and relaxation hasn't been easy for a while.
4,424 posted on 01/10/2003 11:36:59 AM PST by js1138
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To: Doctor Stochastic
TRVTH

is that Latin for truth? Are you trying to impress me? ;^)

4,425 posted on 01/10/2003 11:38:46 AM PST by js1138 (New Motto for the day: TRVTH or consequenses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank you so much for your post!

IMHO, it takes two to argue and thus, as Solomon said - A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger - Prov 15:1

That is so important, because in the presence of wrath, we can't hear a word anyone is saying.

4,426 posted on 01/10/2003 11:41:13 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Actually TRVTH is more properly encised on a plinth.
4,427 posted on 01/10/2003 11:42:56 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (A belief is not true because it is useful. - Henri-Frédéric Amiel)
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To: music_code
Actually, the datings from various means are remarkably consistent.

Christian Perspective on Dating

4,428 posted on 01/10/2003 11:47:10 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Funny like how you can look at all things(we should) . . . both ways - - -

skewering creation . . . evolutionists do - - -

and skewering evolution . . . creationists do ! ! !

This is funny . . . when the volley ball clears the net - - - it changes shape // size .. .. ..

evos cheat // lie // eliminate our best player ! ! !

Main Entry: 2skewer
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1701
1 : to fasten or pierce with or as if with a skewer
2 : to criticize or ridicule sharply and effectively


extended playing field advantage for themselves // rules too and limiting ours ! ! !


torture // logic // play - - -game plan tactics too ! ! !
4,429 posted on 01/10/2003 11:48:27 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Want to make a real splash with your site? Try spelling everything correctly and not making any glaring grammatical errors. Know when to use "effect" and when to use "affect?" How about "farther" vs. "further?" Know the difference between "ensure" and "insure?" I do. I'm a professional writer. Let me check over your site before you make a fool of yourself in front of the rest of the online community.
From www.theplinth.org
4,430 posted on 01/10/2003 11:50:28 AM PST by js1138 (New Motto for the day: TRVTH or consequenses.)
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To: f.Christian
Evos are boring . . . I need a new life // hobby ! ! !
4,431 posted on 01/10/2003 11:50:37 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: js1138
Jeepers, js1138! I had no idea your son is in Manhattan. I can see where relaxation is difficult and am even now lifting him and you up in prayer, asking for God's protection and peace.
4,432 posted on 01/10/2003 11:51:14 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Aric2000
Paganism, certain types that is, have always taught that.

Why do you think that?

4,433 posted on 01/10/2003 11:54:13 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: f.Christian
Thank you for your post!

I however, respectfully disagree. No force - human or otherwise - can have an advantage over anyone who puts his trust in God.

4,434 posted on 01/10/2003 11:58:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: balrog666
P-p-p-p-p-placemarker.
4,435 posted on 01/10/2003 12:00:44 PM PST by balrog666 (God is real... unless declared an integer.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
As a Platonist, it's a bit tough for me to come up with examples that lean in the "invented" direction. Perhaps y'all can offer some?

It seems to me that mathematics is a combination of invented and discovered.

The relationship between the three sides of a right triangle certainly existed before Pythagoras came along, but he invented the formal theorum.

The map isn't the territory...

4,436 posted on 01/10/2003 12:24:27 PM PST by forsnax5
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To: forsnax5
Thank you so much for your excellent analysis! Hugs!
4,437 posted on 01/10/2003 12:26:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: forsnax5
There's a bit more to it than that. The theorms regarding triangles are only true for planes, and planes are a construct, an invention of the human imagination that do not exist in the real world.
4,438 posted on 01/10/2003 12:37:20 PM PST by js1138 (Still awed by "plinth." Where do words come from?)
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To: balrog666
(God is real... unless declared an integer.)

...or how 'bout this. If God is infinite, and our earthly lives are only part of "eternal" lives, then our earthly lives become nothing.

In other words, our time defined earthbound lives, lets say, 80 years, as part of our eternal (infinite) lives, "goes to zero" as we say in calculus. a real number numerating an infinite denominator goes to zero. Therefore, I posit the christian earthly life is equal to zero.

Ok, I'm getting a little loopy here, but math is math, even in the supernatural world. Perhaps those smarter than I can help me out.
4,439 posted on 01/10/2003 12:38:36 PM PST by whattajoke (...looking skyward for that lightning strike, 30 years and waiting!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Did I forget to say thanks?
4,440 posted on 01/10/2003 12:39:23 PM PST by js1138
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