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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

By WILL SENTELL

wsentell@theadvocate.com

Capitol news bureau

High school biology textbooks would include a disclaimer that evolution is only a theory under a change approved Tuesday by a committee of the state's top school board.

If the disclaimer wins final approval, it would apparently make Louisiana just the second state in the nation with such a provision. The other is Alabama, which is the model for the disclaimer backers want in Louisiana.

Alabama approved its policy six or seven years ago after extensive controversy that included questions over the religious overtones of the issue.

The change approved Tuesday requires Louisiana education officials to check on details for getting publishers to add the disclaimer to biology textbooks.

It won approval in the board's Student and School Standards/ Instruction Committee after a sometimes contentious session.

"I don't believe I evolved from some primate," said Jim Stafford, a board member from Monroe. Stafford said evolution should be offered as a theory, not fact.

Whether the proposal will win approval by the full state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education on Thursday is unclear.

Paul Pastorek of New Orleans, president of the board, said he will oppose the addition.

"I am not prepared to go back to the Dark Ages," Pastorek said.

"I don't think state boards should dictate editorial content of school textbooks," he said. "We shouldn't be involved with that."

Donna Contois of Metairie, chairwoman of the committee that approved the change, said afterward she could not say whether it will win approval by the full board.

The disclaimer under consideration says the theory of evolution "still leaves many unanswered questions about the origin of life.

"Study hard and keep an open mind," it says. "Someday you may contribute to the theories of how living things appeared on earth."

Backers say the addition would be inserted in the front of biology textbooks used by students in grades 9-12, possibly next fall.

The issue surfaced when a committee of the board prepared to approve dozens of textbooks used by both public and nonpublic schools. The list was recommended by a separate panel that reviews textbooks every seven years.

A handful of citizens, one armed with a copy of Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species," complained that biology textbooks used now are one-sided in promoting evolution uncritically and are riddled with factual errors.

"If we give them all the facts to make up their mind, we have educated them," Darrell White of Baton Rouge said of students. "Otherwise we have indoctrinated them."

Darwin wrote that individuals with certain characteristics enjoy an edge over their peers and life forms developed gradually millions of years ago.

Backers bristled at suggestions that they favor the teaching of creationism, which says that life began about 6,000 years ago in a process described in the Bible's Book of Genesis.

White said he is the father of seven children, including a 10th-grader at a public high school in Baton Rouge.

He said he reviewed 21 science textbooks for use by middle and high school students. White called Darwin's book "racist and sexist" and said students are entitled to know more about controversy that swirls around the theory.

"If nothing else, put a disclaimer in the front of the textbooks," White said.

John Oller Jr., a professor at the University of Louisiana-Lafayette, also criticized the accuracy of science textbooks under review. Oller said he was appearing on behalf of the Louisiana Family Forum, a Christian lobbying group.

Oller said the state should force publishers to offer alternatives, correct mistakes in textbooks and fill in gaps in science teachings. "We are talking about major falsehoods that should be addressed," he said.

Linda Johnson of Plaquemine, a member of the board, said she supports the change. Johnson said the new message of evolution "will encourage students to go after the facts."


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To: Nebullis
For example, higher level courses are outlined according to the historical sequence of discoveries and the experiments are explained in the context of scientific thought of the day.
3,941 posted on 01/08/2003 5:37:44 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: donh
Oops, 3941 was for you. When these threads move so furiously, afterthoughts end up lost.
3,942 posted on 01/08/2003 5:40:50 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: donh
It occurs to me that the disappearance of Mr. Blue seems to correlate with the banishment to the smokey backroom.

I assume you mean LBB. He has a friend who also uses that color, and who has also been absent. Perhaps they can't locate the thread. You might give them a ping, if you miss them.

3,943 posted on 01/08/2003 5:42:40 PM PST by PatrickHenry (If I don't respond, you're on "virtual ignore.")
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To: f.Christian
religion in tacky garb

what have you groped in the dark---

for basing your life on (a lie?)---

what hardly any but the die hard few believe in (the truth)...

Transfigured--- Rich--- enlightened !!!
3,944 posted on 01/08/2003 5:42:45 PM PST by Sentis
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To: Condorman
If what you say is true,

It is.

the the "sequence of events" phrase could be used in the same way as an adjective.

Well, yes.

For example in the phrase "biological evolution," "biological" is the adjective modifying "evolution," the noun.

Right

The statement in question is not structured like that.

Are you saying that adjectives never follow a noun or are you saying that adjective clauses don't exist?

The "squence of events" phrase is equivallent to the word "evolution," not dependent on it.

"Evolution is the central organizing principle of the historical sciences -- biology, geology, and cosmology." That's a good sentence. It makes sense. It's pretty clear it says what it's author means it to say.

"The sequence of events by which the world came to be as we see it today, is the central organizing principle of the historical sciences -- biology, geology, and cosmology." That's what one would use on a paper if one wished to sound smart but didn't want anyone to understand what he meant.

3,945 posted on 01/08/2003 5:43:23 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Sentis
What hope . . . glory do you have in evolution - - - meta moophosis // turn into a frog // mud puddle ? ? ?
3,946 posted on 01/08/2003 5:47:32 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
what truth...enlightenment do you have in religion---stagnation // turn into a zombie // a stick in the mud ???
3,947 posted on 01/08/2003 5:50:24 PM PST by Sentis
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To: Sentis
Hey . . . flux polar - - - plasma // magic - - - you're hard to put a finger // punch on ! ! !
3,948 posted on 01/08/2003 5:51:22 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
hey....follish prattle--- reality // FACTS --- not so hard to put a finger // read a freakin book !!!
3,949 posted on 01/08/2003 5:55:25 PM PST by Sentis
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To: All
3950? Rapidly approaching 4000.
3,950 posted on 01/08/2003 5:58:38 PM PST by PatrickHenry (If I don't respond, you're on "virtual ignore.")
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To: Tribune7
::sigh::

Tribune7, an unusually dense poster on the subject of grammar, has yet to demonstrate how that "sequence of events" bit constitutes an adjective phrase.
3,951 posted on 01/08/2003 5:58:39 PM PST by Condorman ("Trouble with grammar, have I? Yes!" -- Yoda)
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To: Sentis
Morph books // science . . . keep spinning around - - - mesmerization // evobotniks ! ! !
3,952 posted on 01/08/2003 5:59:12 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
3950? Rapidly approaching 4000.

Race ya to it!

3,953 posted on 01/08/2003 6:01:13 PM PST by Condorman (The battle goes not always to the strong, nor the race to the fleet, but that's the way to bet.)
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To: Condorman
Here we go, placemarker for the record breaker!!
3,954 posted on 01/08/2003 6:07:01 PM PST by Aric2000 (The Theory of Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are Religious, Any Questions?)
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To: Condorman
Tribune7, an unusually dense poster on the subject of grammar, has yet to demonstrate how that "sequence of events" bit constitutes an adjective phrase.

LOL, whatever.

3,955 posted on 01/08/2003 6:18:34 PM PST by Tribune7 (Those who can't spell equivalent shouldn't teach grammar)
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To: donh
I entertain serious doubts that pedagogy is not primary in education.

It's not, teaching is.

I guess Don we'll just have to disagree. My opinion is that children will learn more about science if they're taught more than just currently accepted results because science is much more than that.

3,956 posted on 01/08/2003 6:22:45 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: PatrickHenry; All
"3950? Rapidly approaching 4000."

wow, this is a very impressive # of posts
(and I would imagine discussion, though I don't have the time right now to read it all yet!)

3,957 posted on 01/08/2003 6:37:03 PM PST by SunnyUsa (just helping you all to make your goal of 4000 posts!)
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To: SunnyUsa
I don't have the time right now to read it all yet!

That's no excuse. It's only a month's worth of post. Almost anyway.

3,958 posted on 01/08/2003 6:38:28 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: PatrickHenry
The question we must all ask is who will get the glory of the 4000th post.
3,959 posted on 01/08/2003 6:39:25 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: SunnyUsa
What are you doing browsing in The Smokey Backroom, anyway?
3,960 posted on 01/08/2003 6:40:34 PM PST by Tribune7
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