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Mexican Consulate Opens In Downtown Indianapolis. (Shop after shop, sign after sign in Spanish)
WISHTV 8 ^ | 11-2-02

Posted on 11/22/2002 3:20:37 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf

The Mexican Consulate in Indianapolis will be open for business Monday. It's an office that will serve a group of people that's growing rapidly in our city and state. Mayor Bart Peterson's office has worked for about two years with the Mexican government and the state of Indiana to get this consulate opened.

You don't have to look hard to see why the consulate is needed. Drive down Washington Street a few miles west of downtown, and you'll see the fruits of our Hispanic and Latino community's labor. Shop after shop, sign after sign in Spanish. There are now some 34,000 Latinos and Hispanics in Indianapolis, and 60% of them are Mexican.

"We have an education system that welcomes the immigrants and we like the way we are treated because we find that the American community is welcoming in general," said Roberto Curci, La Guia Magazine.

The city even has two publications geared toward this growing community. "The Voice of Indiana," a bilingual newspaper and "The Guide of Indianapolis," a magazine for Hispanics and Latinos. There's even a new Hispanic and Latino yellow pages.

Local businesses are forging ties with that community. Kroger just donated a van to the Hispanic Center of Indianapolis to thank them for translation help that the center has provided for the grocery chain.

"As we change and we are changing as a city, I think it was important for business to recognize that and we have recognized it," said Jeff Golc, Kroger.

The change will continue. Just ask the woman who helps run the grocery store on West Washington Street. New Hispanic and Latino customers come in for her authentic products all the time.

"Like once in a while there will be somebody new that comes. You know, like, "Oh, we just moved here and we came to see how it is." So yeah, we always get new people that come here," said Irasema Delgado, store manager.

The Mexican Consulate will serve three states: Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky. It will serve as the Mexican government's primary link with those states on issues such as immigration, trade and economic development.


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To: bleudevil
But someone running a legit business like a grocery store, I don't have a problem with. I assume they're paying property taxes, etc.

I don't mind anyone running a business or paying taxes, but I don't care much for having to speak a foriegn language to do business with them. I live 25 miles from the border, just this morning I was talking with the clerk in a convenience store, she has a degree in computer science, she can't get a job in the computer industry here because she doesn't speak Spanish, so she is stuck selling gas.

Isn't it grand that you can't get a job in your own country because you can't speak the language of foriegners, it has gotten noticeably worse here over the past 10 years.

Brace yourselves folks it is coming to a town near you.

121 posted on 11/22/2002 8:30:07 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: CWOJackson
Poor people willing to do anything to survice...

Of course it's not only Americans they sell themselves to ---you forget how readily Mexicans also buy prostitutes. I didn't see Americans purchasing the 12 year old girls in the Plaza Garibaldi ---it was all Mexicans.

And what is the excuse for Mexico's extreme poverty when it's a very wealthy country in natural resources including lots of oil?

122 posted on 11/22/2002 8:31:03 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
We're both sovereign nations that have citizens traveling all over the world and have a need to keep in touch with foreign governments for a variety of reasons. Sounds pretty equivalent to me. Or are you saying that Mexico should just go back behind their border until you deem them worthy?
123 posted on 11/22/2002 8:32:31 PM PST by discostu
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To: FITZ
Way to stick words in people's mouths Fitz. When you've got a comment on what I actually said let me know.
124 posted on 11/22/2002 8:33:50 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Sounds pretty equivalent to me. Or are you saying that Mexico should just go back behind their border until you deem them worthy?

I have less than ZERO respect for the Mexican government or it's Consulates it's building throughout the US. You contradict yourself ---you say your friends FLED Mexico and yet you turn and say the two countries are equivalent. No. Mexico should have no authority inside the US. It can't govern Mexico, it's one of the world's most corrupt governments (again ---why did your friends FLEE? and why are the Consulates then here to serve them?

125 posted on 11/22/2002 8:35:12 PM PST by FITZ
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To: c-b 1
A young man is looking at the want ads, the job seems to be perfect for him, then as he gets to the bottom of the ad, and it states, "must be bilingual". This is happening right before our eyes. Job after job is being lost, and English speaking Americans are the big losers.

Don’t believe me. Look at the want ads in the Los Angeles Times, the Orange County Register, and any of the big city newspapers and all over the country. Take a look at Monster.com, the giant of on-line job listing for the entire country. Start reading all of the ads. You will be shocked, as you wont qualify for many of them because you don’t speak the right language!

Construction foreman better speak Spanish so they can attempt to communicate with the workers. Insurance claims representatives, people that work in court houses, in social services, police, human resources, sales people, city employees, dispatchers, retail clerks, Department of Motor Vehicles, and on and on and on.

And it’s getting worse folks! And it’s not just Spanish, they are looking for Vietnamese, Chinese, applicants etc etc.

Why are our so-called leaders catering to these foreigners and illegal aliens. Why are we being sold out in our own country? Don’t they realize that if this continues, it will be like a domino effect. Once you start this, there is no return.

There is no longer any damn incentive for any of these people to learn English.

Why can’t these foreigners learn to speak English? Why do many of them have no desire to learn English? Could it be that they no longer need to? Maybe I am crazy, but when I am in public, or in a working situation or even at the market, I find it extremely offensive to have people stand several feet from me carrying on a conversation in a foreign language, on a routine basis.

And its getting down right dangerous, when you need to communicate with someone in a potentially dangerous situation, and they just stand their with the deer in the headlights look. It's getting crazy, as our politicians and so-called leaders are now even giving speaches in foreign languages, thinking this is cute or in a sick attempt to gain votes. We are being sold down the river. If this does not stop, this country will become a tower of babble. English is the thread that holds this country together and we are loosing it fast. Think of your kids. Are they going to demand that they learn Spanish or whatever language to survive? Why can’t they learn our language? Is there an agenda here? Many of these people come here and wave foreign flags, celebrate their own holidays, and now, refuse to even learn English because the job they just got, didn’t require it. Must be bilingual, English only need not apply.

126 posted on 11/22/2002 8:35:44 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: WestCoastGal
Anyone who has to live in affordable housing would have to live with the graffiti and the gangs and the crime.

Very true. I'm a single woman, and I've gotten along fine with my little office job and one-bedroom apartment. Now my neighborhood has turned into a barrio, with the graffiti, gangs and crime, but I can't get out because rents in halfway decent neighborhoods are over $1,000 a month. I can't afford that. The illegals can get around the high rent by crowding numerous people into one apartment. But most Americans don't want to live that way. So what do we do?

127 posted on 11/22/2002 8:35:58 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: bleudevil
I realize after I posted that how it sounded. I am concerned about illegal immigration, too. But someone running a legit business like a grocery store, I don't have a problem with. I assume they're paying property taxes, etc.
 
I wouldn't care if I knew the store was run by legal immigrants and that the first thing they learned to do when they arrived was learn to speak English.  I can't tell you how many times I have been in a business recently where the workers they have don't speak English.  I can't tell if they are legal or illegal, but I will assume they are illegal and should be sent back where they came from, if they can't bother to learn English. 
 
Indpls and Indiana are changing fast, and I don't know anyone that likes the direction it's going...... 
 
 

128 posted on 11/22/2002 8:36:01 PM PST by united1000
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To: FITZ
"Of course it's not only Americans they sell themselves to..."

Well that makes it okay then. Yep, you've sure got the morale high ground there.

"And what is the excuse for Mexico's extreme poverty when it's a very wealthy country in natural resources including lots of oil?"

Yes? What does that have to do with a Hispanic community in Indianapolis moving into a crime ridden slum and turning it into a clean and decent place to live? See that's what the point of this whole thread was...you're the one who introduced Juarez into the thread.

So what is wrong with there be a clean decent neighbor in American where one hadn't existed in about 30 years?

129 posted on 11/22/2002 8:36:20 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: FITZ
That's right Fitzy, I live in Tucson, I've got a Mexican restaraunt founded by immigrant 1/10 of a mile from home, I've got Mexican immigrant neighbors, I was steered through college by a Mexican immigrant, and I used to work for a Mexican immigrant. We've got lots of them in Tucson. Nice people, they've got a list of complaints about Mexico that makes FR during Clinton seem down right positive and they thank God every day they got out of that proverty stricken craphole.
130 posted on 11/22/2002 8:37:32 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
If Mexico really cared anything about it's citizens, instead of these one-way open borders, it would be encouraging Americans culture to move into Mexico. It would be Americanizing Mexico so more people could have a decent lifestyle. And yet your president Fox was in power when they confiscated homes from American citizens.
131 posted on 11/22/2002 8:37:38 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Time for the meds.
132 posted on 11/22/2002 8:38:14 PM PST by Torie
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To: discostu
that proverty stricken craphole.

Then why are we giving the government of that craphole so much authority over the USA? Encouraging millions of it's hard-working types leave isn't exactly nation-building is it?

So is your answer to the problem to have 90% of the citizens just move to the US? We just give them our country because theirs didn't work out?

134 posted on 11/22/2002 8:39:51 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Torie
Oh it's TORIE! What a surprise!
135 posted on 11/22/2002 8:40:22 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
If this does not stop, this country will become a tower of babble. English is the thread that holds this country together and we are loosing it fast.

Tower of Babel
losing

136 posted on 11/22/2002 8:42:00 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: FITZ
How many more businesses do you want to move down there? They're welcoming the best part, entrepeneurship, with open arms.

Oh and shove that "your president Fox" crap up your hind quarters, I'm an American diphole. This is EXACTLY the attitude that will ALWAY keep you clowns marginalized and make you an embarassment to FR. Just because somebody doesn't believe your paranoid raviing that have YET to EVER prove to be SLIGHTLY true under ANY circumstance doesn't mean they don't love America.
137 posted on 11/22/2002 8:43:50 PM PST by discostu
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To: sierradove
I don't think there is anything funny about this

I know, it's just my way of getting the attention of those the may be asleep or preoccupied.......

138 posted on 11/22/2002 8:46:32 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Miss Marple
If this does not stop, this country will become a tower of babble. English is the thread that holds this country together and we are losing it fast.

And even those that are more concerned with spelling than our country are getting the message!

139 posted on 11/22/2002 8:48:34 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: discostu
They're welcoming the best part, entrepeneurship, with open arms.

They aren't welcoming entrepeneurship with any open arms ---if you believe it you should try it ---they're welcoming NAFTA type industries which make a few people very rich and the rest make $25 to $30 a week. Not even close to what could make them middle class but that's not of course what they want there in that country. If Mexico welcomed a middle class, it wouldn't be worse off than Canada or the USA ---after all it's all part of the same land mass with the same kinds of natural resourses and much better weather.

140 posted on 11/22/2002 8:48:57 PM PST by FITZ
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