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'Cheap sex' is making men give up on marriage
NY Post ^ | September 2, 2017 | Larry Getlan

Posted on 09/03/2017 11:34:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode

Thanks to cheap sex, marriage may be doomed.

The share of Americans ages 25-34 who are married dropped 13 percentage points from 2000 to 2014. A new book by sociologist Mark Regnerus blames this declining rate on how easy it is for men to get off.

Regnerus calls it “cheap sex,” an economic term meant to describe sex that has very little cost in terms of time or emotional investment, giving it little value.

Regnerus bases his ideas, in part, on the work of British social theorist Anthony Giddens, who argued that the pill isolated sex from marriage and children. Add online pornography and dating sites to the mix and you don’t even need relationships.

The result is “two overlapping (but distinctive) markets, one for sex and one for marriage, with a rather large territory in between comprised of significant relationships of varying commitment and duration,” Regnerus writes in “Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy” (Oxford University Press).

In generations past, women generally made men wait until marriage to have sex. To get a wife (and, therefore, sex), men had to be clean and presentable and have a good job. This, Regnerus reasons, gave men all the motivation they needed to become respectable members of society.

Now with porn on-demand and greater reproductive freedom, sex is a commodity available at any time. This has left men with little motivation for marriage, writes Regnerus, who cites demographer Steven Ruggles’ prediction that one of every three people in their 20s will never marry.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: loserman; marriage; men; mgtow; promiscuity; pua; redpill
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To: Bryanw92

Yeah I agree. So many women are putting career first.


61 posted on 09/03/2017 12:14:20 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Olog-hai; neverevergiveup

>>If “men re-prioritized”, then they didn’t develop character themselves. It still takes two to tango, as the saying goes.

It has nothing to do with men’s character alone. Men are choosing to not be legally yoked to a person who can and probably will ruin him financially and emotionally.

It’s really just free market capitalism. Maximize outputs for minimum inputs. Women devalued the vagina to almost nothing. Who pays top dollar for a commodity that is almost free?

neverevergiveup commented on my post and explained it better than I did:

Lot’s of truth in that statement. It’s no longer about equality, mutual deep respect, commitment, and willingness to sacrifice for each other. Now it’s about women vs men, women being better than men, women being powerful, etc. Anyone of either gender who can’t get past themselves enough to give adequate value to the life and dreams of a partner shouldn’t get married.


62 posted on 09/03/2017 12:14:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Oh, they’ve been bashing women here since at least 15 years ago.


63 posted on 09/03/2017 12:14:40 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: 2banana

Actually men tend to get affirmative action now in college admissions. So many more women than men are applying to college that schools are at risk of reaching the tipping point ratio (somewhere around 60/40) by which women lose interest in attending a particular college.


64 posted on 09/03/2017 12:14:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tet68

Certainly doesn’t seem to be worth all the effort I see these young people putting into it these days...


65 posted on 09/03/2017 12:15:13 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: kaehurowing

I lived on and off with a young woman whose bedside manner was like just another porn actress’s. Slutty-sounding gutter language and not very romantic at all. That was back in the early to mid-90’s and she’s 50 now. Even when she was 26 she was only a 6 or 7 out of 10...I’m glad I got out of that one when I did, but it should’ve been a lot sooner. I realized that there was no bringing her ‘up’ and I didn’t think it would be a good idea to dumb myself down for somebody like that.


66 posted on 09/03/2017 12:15:43 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: CGASMIA68

I am sure she thinks we just can’t handle a “strong woman.”

Zookeepers handle wild animals

Prison guards handle convicts

Orderlies handle lunatics

When I come home from a week long jury trial on a Friday night the last thing I want to “handle” is a wife.


67 posted on 09/03/2017 12:16:37 PM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: miss marmelstein

It’s the culture I want to bash. Watch The Red Pill movie.


68 posted on 09/03/2017 12:17:34 PM PDT by robroys woman
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To: rbg81

I told my wife that based on the pool of young single women that I see everywhere when I am out, I’d hate to be 20 years old and in the market for a girlfriend or wife.

And if even some of what I read about college campuses now is accurate, the pool of non wacko females is seriously shrinking. Plus the dating environment there appears to be toxic.

In the early 70s I had a few dates with “feminists”. While fairly mild compared to today’s version, if there was no good sex involved, I moved on pretty quickly.


69 posted on 09/03/2017 12:17:42 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Bryanw92
Women devalued the vagina to almost nothing.

They had a lot of help from the media. Everything since the early 70's has been about romanticizing promiscuity.

70 posted on 09/03/2017 12:18:10 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: WilliamCooper1

You should be a Muslim.


71 posted on 09/03/2017 12:18:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: equaviator

Maybe she thought that’s what you expected.


72 posted on 09/03/2017 12:19:27 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: EdnaMode

Because it’s their way to escape their Biblical duty: To devote their lives to a man and raise children. Who wants to do that when they can get drunk until 4 am and get double teamed by a few guys ever weekend?


73 posted on 09/03/2017 12:19:32 PM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: thecodont

“I wonder, what year was the “tipping point” for this? During what year did social expectations shift in the direction of having sex before marriage vs. waiting until marriage?”

Circa 1968. Reason: the Pill.


74 posted on 09/03/2017 12:20:23 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: WilliamCooper1
Who wants to do that when they can get drunk until 4 am and get double teamed by a few guys ever weekend?

You aren't moving in the right circles my friend.

75 posted on 09/03/2017 12:20:34 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: EdnaMode

Well, no, the leftists are whistling past the graveyard on that one. Cheap sex has always been around. Something else changed.

So, come on now, leftists. What changed? And, why are you pretending to be upset about it? Bad polling numbers?


76 posted on 09/03/2017 12:21:08 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: rockrr

“MGTOW - an idea whose time has arrived.”

That’s even worse. Those are men who are weak and don’t know how to fight for the right things. If you are (a) Biblical (b) not a nice guy (c) not afraid to be a jerk to women and (d) understand their mind games, you will get more you know what than an toilet seat.

Women love men that are powerful, in charge, and to some extent put them in their place.


77 posted on 09/03/2017 12:21:43 PM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: bgill

You may be right. But it seems to have gotten much worse in the last 2 years. I could be wrong, though.


78 posted on 09/03/2017 12:21:57 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Bryanw92

I certainly didn’t say “alone”, so I agree with you there. But it serves no purpose for men to become followers if certain women have subverted their own character.

And no, I do not call free market capitalism the cause of moral degeneracy—that has to do with communism, as I noted in post #33.


79 posted on 09/03/2017 12:22:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: 2banana

YEs, I’d think all of those play a role more than “cheap sex”. A few decades ago the same media was trumpeting “cheap sex” as the greatest thing since sliced bread; now they see men able to recreate sexually as well and it is a problem...


80 posted on 09/03/2017 12:22:33 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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