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'Cheap sex' is making men give up on marriage
NY Post ^ | September 2, 2017 | Larry Getlan

Posted on 09/03/2017 11:34:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode

Thanks to cheap sex, marriage may be doomed.

The share of Americans ages 25-34 who are married dropped 13 percentage points from 2000 to 2014. A new book by sociologist Mark Regnerus blames this declining rate on how easy it is for men to get off.

Regnerus calls it “cheap sex,” an economic term meant to describe sex that has very little cost in terms of time or emotional investment, giving it little value.

Regnerus bases his ideas, in part, on the work of British social theorist Anthony Giddens, who argued that the pill isolated sex from marriage and children. Add online pornography and dating sites to the mix and you don’t even need relationships.

The result is “two overlapping (but distinctive) markets, one for sex and one for marriage, with a rather large territory in between comprised of significant relationships of varying commitment and duration,” Regnerus writes in “Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy” (Oxford University Press).

In generations past, women generally made men wait until marriage to have sex. To get a wife (and, therefore, sex), men had to be clean and presentable and have a good job. This, Regnerus reasons, gave men all the motivation they needed to become respectable members of society.

Now with porn on-demand and greater reproductive freedom, sex is a commodity available at any time. This has left men with little motivation for marriage, writes Regnerus, who cites demographer Steven Ruggles’ prediction that one of every three people in their 20s will never marry.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: loserman; marriage; men; mgtow; promiscuity; pua; redpill
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To: Architect of Paradise

Dr. Dre was right. You can’t turn a ho into a housewife.


401 posted on 09/04/2017 4:16:15 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: BJ1

Check out Judges Chapters 4-5.

Also there are TALL, really tall women. I am one of them.


402 posted on 09/04/2017 4:17:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: BJ1
But really, I agree with you. Guys don’t as a rule give a flip about a woman’s career.

For guys intending on having children, a big career indicates she will be less likely to want to take time off for babies.

I've been married over 30 years, three nice kids, wife stayed home to take care of them.

403 posted on 09/04/2017 4:19:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Netz
It’s not just out of shape blobs much of the turn off is ATTITUDE.

A person's physical condition presents many indicators of their attitude, character, and mental state.

A person who is not willing to make an effort to stay in at least moderate physical shape, and is not willing to make an effort to be at least moderately well groomed, is not going to be willing to make an effort to keep you happy.

404 posted on 09/04/2017 4:27:29 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: miss marmelstein

>Happily married to a guy for 25 years. He’s mature unlike a lot of you.

I feel sorry for him, if true.

Proverbs 21:9
It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.


405 posted on 09/04/2017 4:31:34 AM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: Biggirl

>Yet there were times as the Bible has recorded that women did assume leadership. For example Deborah. There was also Esther. Also a number of early Christian communities were lead by women.

There’s lots of modern churches led by women. Universally they profane God with gay marriage and support abortion.

Women should never be in a positions of leadership.


406 posted on 09/04/2017 4:37:22 AM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: JohnyBoy

Better to live with a kind, good man who possesses maturity, sense and dignity than quarrel with an a**hole on FR.


407 posted on 09/04/2017 4:51:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: PapaBear3625

Agree with your points. There’s an old assumption that people who are fat are indeed lazy in general and thus far, it seems to be true...


408 posted on 09/04/2017 4:57:40 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: fireman15

I have gotten a little side tracked but I think that all these computer and electronic distractions combined with a poor diet and almost complete lack of physical activity has made our young people fatter, and less attractive to one another. ============================================================
My 2 cents is that access to unlimited information and smartphones has had the following effects:
1. Allowed people to create their own information bubbles
2. Distort reality
3. Degrade civility
4. Reduce common sense
5. Reduce physical activity, which in turn reduces attractiveness

I tell some people this and they just label me an old curmudgeon. However, I don’t think it is age. If anything, my experience better allows me to compare now & then.

I think the smartphones especially give people a sense of power and invulnerability. They imagine they can influence the world by using hashtags or liking something. It distorts reality and is a dangerous delusion.

I use my computer a lot but do not own a smartphone on purpose (just a plain flip phone).


409 posted on 09/04/2017 5:08:49 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: WilliamCooper1

A pretty well funded wife can accelerate your career. There is a status in obtaining that “trophy” wife.


410 posted on 09/04/2017 5:12:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: miss marmelstein

>Better to live with a kind, good man who possesses maturity, sense and dignity than quarrel with an a**hole on FR.

Foul mouthed and quarrelsome. That’s just sad.


411 posted on 09/04/2017 5:15:17 AM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: Twink

Ex has seen our children about 3 days in the last year. Two older children refer to her as an incubator and just “say the right things” to her when they converse. Sad situation all around, but the “ex” found herself I guess (While hurting 5 people that once loved her).

‘Eat, Pray, Love’ or whatever set her off after reading the book. Before that looking for “father figures” to sleep with. Lost soul if you ask me, her denial about what she did to the kids mentally, emotionally, etc... angers me the most.


412 posted on 09/04/2017 5:17:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: miss marmelstein
My pretty, kind, hardworking, endearing cleaning woman (35 years old) cannot find a marriageable man because all the men disdain her “low class job”.

Define "pretty". Women and man see "pretty" differently.

413 posted on 09/04/2017 5:19:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JohnyBoy

Salty language is neither foul nor quarrelsome - it’s pithy and to the point. Please, stop sending me messages and go back to cherry-picking bible quotes to suit your stupid sense of superiority. You embarrass yourself.


414 posted on 09/04/2017 5:19:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: central_va

I’m not going to count angels on a pin for you. Too many of the people writing here seem to expect a Melania Trump for a wife rather than a reasonably attractive young woman with a good set of ethics and morals. Of course, every women on this thread is wondering what you guys look like, lol.


415 posted on 09/04/2017 5:22:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mamzelle

Marry a foreign bride and you marry her entire extended family, of which you are now by far the richest member.


416 posted on 09/04/2017 5:31:31 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: miss marmelstein

So she really isn’t pretty.


417 posted on 09/04/2017 5:36:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

She’s very pretty. There’s not one guy writing on this thread that I would set her up with. You’re a bunch of idiots.


418 posted on 09/04/2017 5:37:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Twink

“Should I tell my girls not to marry an “american” man because they’re all metrosexual effeminate losers?”

Actually it’s a lot harder for a guy to fake being masculine than for a woman to fake being that ‘perfect match’, so no. But there are clues that help. For example, if the guy is from West Coast, God help your girls. If the guy is from Texas (particularly if from a real Texan family), then it’s a real man.


419 posted on 09/04/2017 5:41:31 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Biggirl

So sexually and mentally depraved people are helping each other in floods and disasters? How nice!

I imagine the Sodomites might have done the same had there been a severe drought in the region.

The symptoms won’t change the diagnosis.


420 posted on 09/04/2017 5:50:24 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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