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The Russian Hack Absolutely Affected The Outcome of The 2016 Election (Laff riot)
The Huffington Post ^ | December 16, 2016 | Richard Greene

Posted on 03/07/2017 2:25:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump won The 2016 Election by

22,748 votes in Wisconsin 44,312 votes in Pennsylvania 9,528 votes in Michigan.

Out of 135,657,507 Americans voting, Donald Trump won the Presidency by 76,588 votes, or 0.056% of those voting.

In Michigan, for example, out of 4,799,284 votes cast, a margin of victory of 9,528 represents 0.19% of the vote. To put that into context, that means that in a representative room full of 1,000 Michigan voters, 501 would have voted for Trump and 499 would have voted for Hillary Clinton. In other words, if only 2 out of 1,000 voters had liked Hillary a bit more, or Trump a bit less, the election in Michigan, and all of their 16 electoral votes, would have gone to Clinton instead.

To say that less than 2 out of every 1,000 Michiganders, and similar numbers in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, were not affected by the constant drip, drip, drip of negative Wikileaks email revelations over the course of many months of the Presidential campaign, accentuated by Donald Trump’s amplification of those leaked emails, accentuated by ads and constant news stories amplifying the worst aspects of those leaked emails, constantly taking Hillary Clinton’s messaging and campaign off course and throwing them, relenttessly, into “Defense” mode instead of taking their own message to the people of Michigan and America . . . is to literally call Vladimir Putin stupid.

The former head of The KGB is not stupid and the effort to get incriminating emails and information about The DNC and Hillary Clinton was not stupid, nor the strategy of publishing little bit by little bit over the course of many months....

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; hillary; russia; trump; wikileaks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More FAKE NEWS


21 posted on 03/07/2017 2:41:43 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL.

To say that Donald Trump's voter turnout wasn't hurt by the continuous campaign of character assassination perpetrated against him by the Democrat-run Media is just laughable.

No matter what "nefarious" influences they want to whine about the Establishment did everything it could to stop Trump and, it failed because of the People.

So they can b!tch, moan, and groan all they want. At least the Russians (if they helped) weren't traitors to their own country the way the Democrat Media was.

F--k them. Their fake news and phony narratives no longer carry any appreciable weight with the American populace.

Eventually, these scumbuckets will have to adopt a new business model, instead of being shills for the corrupt system which they have helped engineer around all decent Americans.

Either that, or they can continue catering to the delusional haters within their own shrinking Leftist PC totalitarian bubble.

As even biased mainstream polls are showing, the American People, by and large, have had it with the constant negativity and bias.

It is the Enemy Media, Democrats, and Establishment who are living in a false reality, and no matter how much they try to deceive the People, we're never going to go back to the time when these scumbags could effectively manipulate public opinion in order to justify their horrible anti-American worldview.

The Democrat Media has been repudiated, and the sooner they realize that fact, and get back to the idea of practicing actual legitimate journalism, the better off they'll be.

Barring that, they will become increasingly irrelevant as they continue in the death throes created by their self-inflicted wounds.

The Enemy doesn't yet comprehend that they're out of power for good. They are rapidly being replaced by alternatives which come much closer to practicing bona fide news gathering and reporting.

If you know nothing, you despicable Establishment punks, know this:

"Payback is a b!tch, a$$holes in the Media, Democrat party, Hollywood, GOPe, and Globalist Establishment in general! You've earned it. We're not going to watch your programming, worship your stars, and purchase your goods and services. A new day is dawning in America, and your days are what has ended. It is you who pine for a corrupt, criminal past in which you walk the halls of power."

So rather than be rude, I'll just close with "ESAD and GFY, biotches!"

22 posted on 03/07/2017 2:41:54 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many voters in those same states were effected by the constant barrage of negative stories about Trump by the pro hillary news media ?


23 posted on 03/07/2017 2:42:01 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why Hillary lost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftP48DUvdo


24 posted on 03/07/2017 2:45:11 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And if Hillary hadn’t stolen the primary from Bernie things could have turned out different


25 posted on 03/07/2017 2:45:54 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They seem to be hitting the pipe early today at HuffPo.

If you really want to learn about Election Fraud, come to California where MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS VOTE.


26 posted on 03/07/2017 2:46:10 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Flick Lives
The really tricky part was how the Russians got the DNC to write all those incriminating emails.

Most excellent, considering *nobody* ever challenged the content of the emails!

27 posted on 03/07/2017 2:48:15 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Sacajaweau
CIA and FBI
28 posted on 03/07/2017 2:48:46 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First of all, when there are SOPHISTICATED defenses, this makes it easier to eliminate suspects. STUXNET, 20 times as complicated as the next most complicated malware, an attack on air gapped Siemens PLC’s at Natanz meant that not to many orgs could pull that off.

The DNC/Podesta/Hillary emails is very much at the other end of the scale. Hell DHS director Jeh Johnson and CIA director John Brenner were both hacked by a teenager several months back.
https://www.wired.com/2015/10/hacker-who-broke-into-cia-director-john-brennan-email-tells-how-he-did-it/

What is really questionable about the election/Russian hacking story is first of all the overall scenario.

Historically the way damaging insider data works is that the person that Russia or China HAS the goods on they TRY to get elected. That way they have leverage.

For example, the PR of China had given money to Bill Clinton since he was the governor of Arkansas through a restaurateur/Chinese agent Johnny Chung. Later when Bill become President, he ordered Loral to fix their ICBM program with the aid of longtime supporter Bernie Schwartz.

Democratic operatives who have lied and leaked partisan intel include Jeh Johnson, John Brenner, and James Clapper. So John Brenner the CIA director who released the intel on the Russian hacks has zero credibility.

My third problem with the Russian/Trump connection are considering the leaks that have come out, they would have come out. Trump and his admin has intel insiders leaking things like crazy. For example, the Mexico call, the Australian call, the Canadian Call, the Russia call with Flynn.

If you were to break into a gun shop to steal something would you grab a handful of BB’s and leave? Heck no, breaking in a gun shop is highly illegal and you wouldn’t risk it unless you were going for some high power weaponry.

Same thing applies. The insiders who are leaking stuff to damage Trump would take him out if they had the goods. They wouldn’t risk their careers and not use the most damaging info they have, and it is pretty clear they have access to practically everything.


29 posted on 03/07/2017 2:50:16 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huffpost. Whattaya expect? They’re still nursing their case of severe red butt.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 2:50:53 PM PST by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whatever the origin of the information, it was true stuff which the Democrats do not deny and that true information, which the voting population should most definitely have known quite possibly swayed some votes.


31 posted on 03/07/2017 2:51:05 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect that the blue collar voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan who tipped the scales to cause Trump to win those states didn’t even realize that John Podesta’s emails had been hacked, or if they saw the information, didn’t care about it. That’s not a knock on them. Its just that most people don’t care about politics as much as political activists do. We all got a good laugh out of Podesta’s emails — calling Chelsea stupid. And Sanders voters were enraged. But the average voter didn’t care.


32 posted on 03/07/2017 2:51:37 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: rellimpank

Report SHOULD read, “Fortunately, Wikileaks informed Americans of all the rotten tricks Hillary and the Democrats played. We don’t have any evidence who leaked the info to wikileaks, but we know it wasn’t Donald Trump, DARN IT!


33 posted on 03/07/2017 2:53:13 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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To: JimSEA
So, if Hillary’s criminality had been kept hidden, she would have won the election?

That is what is so unfair about the election. The truth should not have mattered.

34 posted on 03/07/2017 2:53:44 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Flick Lives
The really tricky part was how the Russians got the DNC to write all those incriminating emails.

Good one, there.

35 posted on 03/07/2017 2:54:24 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: InterceptPoint

It is much more likely that the DNC servers wee compromised by a DNC staffer. Seth Richards comes to mind. And even it that is not the case, demonstrated Democrat skill with passwords and other security guarantees that anyone with a bit of tech skill who wanted it, got it. They did it to themselves in many more ways than one.


36 posted on 03/07/2017 2:57:50 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: arthurus

It is much more likely that the DNC servers wee compromised by a DNC staffer.
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I agree. It would have been a piece of cake.


37 posted on 03/07/2017 3:01:08 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if the conversations between the President and leaders of Mexico and Australia were “leaked” doesn’t that indicate that President Trump is STILL to this day being either wiretapped or under surveillance?
I mean really, who was in the room while he made those calls? It would be easy to find the leaker unless he was being tapped or spied on in some way.


38 posted on 03/07/2017 3:11:03 PM PST by Ymani Cricket (Pressure makes diamonds - General Patton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if the conversations between the President and leaders of Mexico and Australia were “leaked” doesn’t that indicate that President Trump is STILL to this day being either wiretapped or under surveillance?
I mean really, who was in the room while he made those calls? It would be easy to find the leaker unless he was being tapped or spied on in some way.


39 posted on 03/07/2017 3:11:41 PM PST by Ymani Cricket (Pressure makes diamonds - General Patton)
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To: sargon

Don’t sugarcoat it sargon, don’t hold back . . .


40 posted on 03/07/2017 3:14:03 PM PST by BraveMan
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