Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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Punchamullah,
Many thanks for the info!
Possibly Lolo got the kid the “overseas study exemption” for the kids own passport.
Or a family member, whose passport he was on, went with him to Hawaii , then went back to Indonesia sometime later.
How easy is it for people to do adoptions in Indonesia? ( that way they can be put onto the mom’s passport.)
And would they have had to go on the mom’s passport; what if the dad wanted to take them to Hawaii ?
From your post :
“...Exemptions to this rule were given if the minor had a student visa to study abroad,or in extraordinary compassionate cases wherein the minor needed medical treatment,etc, abroad. ...”
Highlander, all those questions have been answered in the foregoing comments, you are simply restating the obvious.
I was asking about how Indonesia did adoptions.
Since 0 wasn’t related to Lolo originally, there would have to be some kind of paperwork done there.
And was asking whether the kid could be put on the dad’s passport if the dad wanted to accompany him abroad and not the mom.
ASK all you want, are you expecting someone to go through adoption records for you in Indonesia? You can’t be serious. How much money for bribes have you got lying around and what are you prepared to pay to see Indonesian passport records?
Maybe you should just fly over there and see what you can dig up.
However, the 1961-1962 Honolulu Polk directory shows the Dunham family (Stanley, Madelyn, and Ann Obama) residing at the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy. address, while “Obama Barack H” resided separately at 625 11 Ave.
This is the first I’ve heard that any Dunham or Obama was actually connected to that address.
Sure sounds like White Granny definitely wanted to make her slutty daughter seem legitimate. I think she made up the wedding and the address where “mr and mrs” Obama lived (just used her own addy in the phone book). Having a tramp as a daughter was not cool in 1961, I’m sure.
I doubt it Lolo was the one who adopted him, anyway, due to all the Lolo/SAD/family photos were photoshopped, or had different men as “Lolo”.
punchamullah, can you help here?
I was asking what Indonesia would need if someone wanted to adopt a kid, and then put him/her on their passport.
And if the dad wanted to take the kid abroad for visit etc, would they put the kid on his passport.
Or would the kid have to stay on his/her mom’s passport and only be able to travel with her.
Ann 0bama is not the same as Stanley Ann Dunham.
If that isn’t clear to people by now, they need to open their minds, brush out the cobwebs of preconceptions, and study up. Not long ago Zullo said that there is no evidence of who his mother is or similar words.
Your reply reminded me, they had to construct that family group on the couch to make it look like they were a family, and we have images of at least three different men claimed to be Lolo. What a waste of time. There’s absolutely no evidence the man we have been shown as Soetoro was the husband of Stanley Ann Dunham.
Hey, go find the passport of a ghost, I’ll pay you...
If anyone adopted him it was someone named Soebarkah and I’ve posted photographs and information on their royal/military connections so often in the past, I refuse to do it again for people with short attention spans.
you’ve got to be joking, a freeper went to Hawaii at great expense and trouble, and provided details of the addresses in the Honolulu Polk:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/pssst-hey-buddy-wanna-see-my-polk/
What’s missing is that most people have been persuaded by ‘Dreams’ that ANN S OBAMA was the Dunham daughter. Funny how the daughter of the Pratt family with whom the Dunhams shared the house, and for whom Stanley Armour worked, doesn’t remember a daughter pregnant or with a baby. Ask Maraniss. He interviewed her.
I think pretty soon people will start paying attention.
Nah...not while it’s erotically stimulating for people with boring lives to imagine a white teenager from Kansas whose parents were secret KGB agents and belonged to a cult that is an off-shoot of islam, in bed with an ugly old black man with five children and a blond white wife. Throw in some erotic images of a model who posed for images in 1958 which appeared in various magazines and on a pornographic website, sent to an ‘academic’ in Brisbane, who linked them to his webpages without provenance, with the pathetic explanation they were sent to him by an anonymous genealogist...
How are you going to beat that? The average supressed middle aged housewife or househusband reading this drivel would be salivating by now.
And you think that the boring truth can compete with that? That Stanley Ann Dunham didn’t show up in Hawaii until 1963 with an unidentified child? That she was a nanny? That there’s no evidence she was at Mercer Island High School after 1959?
What would that do to Frank Marshall Davis’ mystique? That the KGB paid him money for a pregnant girl to go to Kenya and back to hide the fact he had fathered a child?
How dull the truth is. He was broke. He sold calenders door to door, his paper supply business had gone up in smoke. Literally. Fire. Any funds he got his hands on wouldn’t be wasted on air fares to a country in which there was a state of emergency - and a terrorist uprising.
Ayres did well. He blended a number of characters to give the story and the unidentified child a family. And the rest of the stupidity was filled in by obots. They had to. That ANNA OBAMA in Seattle was NEVER meant to be discovered.
Ayres never wrote anything about Seattle and 1961 in that book. Remember what he wrote? The ‘father’ abandoned them when the boy was two years old.
That’s 1963 btw. The same year he showed up in Hawaii with his nanny, and the father-who-wasn’t was still at Harvard, telling his associates he was visiting his son. In Boston.
All Stanley Ann Dunham was required to do was divorce the man she never married, get sole custody and take the boy to Indonesia. On the passport she had in July 1965, which we are unable to see ‘because it’s been destroyed’.
Fred’s #612 has link to Polk directory entries.
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/pssst-hey-buddy-wanna-see-my-polk/
The person posting the info had someone go and take the pix.
If I didn’t hate flying I would be going to the Honolulu library and looking in the 1961 Polk directory for anyone listed as “(last name ), Ann, studt” and making note of the address and last name.
Then finding out what school they were attending.
Then to see if the ones going to the same school as 0 SR , then transferred to a university in Washington state.
That is what is needed here.
Eyes on the target and boots on the ground. :)
I think I can save you the trouble...
That is just one “Ann”.
There’s more Ann’s there; would be looking for the other last names.
As she was listed as a student, and the kenyan 'apparently' met her in a Russian Class, Ann S Obama must have been in Hawaii early enought to enroll at the U of HI for Fall 1960 and get herself listed in the Polk for 1961. So it would seem she was a student living at, or using that address in late 1960.
An investigation of the enrollment application should show that Ann S Obama was a student, and her birthdate, maiden name and the name of her parents. I think we know her name was ANN. After that, we know nothing for certain.
Then to see if the ones going to the same school as 0 SR , then transferred to a university in Washington state.
You have already been presented with a record from the U of WA. It's probably not genuine. It's a scan of an e-mail, without verification.
That is what is needed here.
Good that you know what is needed. Go do it. And I don't undertand your slogan.
Of all the would-be's who could-be, you take the cake. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
There is an Ann in the picture of the group of students at the nachmanoff (sp?) and 0 SR is in that picture.
This Ann is Asian, looks nothing like Stanley Ann.
So, there is an Ann to trace.
That is one of the Ann’s that I would be looking for in the Polk directory.
I would be and could be....
RELENTLESS.
:D
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