Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball
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Have you ever checked to see how Polk collected information? It was anything but scientifically or accurate. Sometimes they hired college students or housewives part time
sometimes they did mass mailing to all residents. They made their money by selling small ads or highliged names Those were accurate but information on names in the neighborhood may have come from phone calls or interviewing your neighbors. My parents have unusually names and always have been called they’re middle names. It was a running joke in our house to see the name of the people who resided at our house. Although we never moved the names frequently changed
Person on phone or neighbor says Ann. Employee writes Ann - Anne Annie or Anna. The choice was theirs. No nefarious act just sloppy work by Polk employee
Question asked; see #617.
Ladysforest,
The question then is, did the later Polk directories (’63-’64) for Honolulu and/or Seattle have any Obama ladies listed?
NO
I looked in the link and it only went up to ‘62-63..... that would get us up to august ‘63. (goes looking upthread to see what month SADO shows up there in ‘63..)
and the only place a lady named Obama appears, is in the one that is posted upthread... 61-62.
Hmmmm
YES!
Occam’s razor.
So we’re left with two and not three....
How to explain the entry in Seattle ‘61 and the entry in Honolulu ‘61?
She moved and polk canvasser hadn’t gotten the word?
Lots of times the phone book will still list people/businesses at the old address....
September is the publishing date per post upthread, and probably july/august sometime is the cutoff date...
Yep! No mystery unless you’re writing that novel
You left off the rest of my comment - where I point out that the ONLY Index Book that does not have the offical date range is the Index Book with obamas name.
And all that still leaves you with the question, who was she, this Ann or Anna? I’ve already made it clear that when Maraniss interviewed the daughter of the Pratt family who shared the house with the Dunhams, she couldn’t remember any Dunham daughter with a baby. He was careful the way he wrote that, granted. He didn’t come right out and say she couldn’t remember the Dunhams had a daughter.
But the suggestion that the Dunham’s daughter was living in that house and she was listed as Ann S Obama in 1961 at the same time as Anna Obama was listed in the Seattle directory really should make you wonder, no matter how slavishly you want to follow the myth of ‘Dreams’.
Why do questions frighten you to that extent? You have no qualms about suggesting that Madelyn was somehow involved in any number of nefarious activities.
Have you ever once posted a link or a source that might shine a light on your theories? (Other than your Vanity Post?)What would it prove if Madelyn is shown to have inherited shares or income from her father? Just how true is that tax return in which zero shows an inheritance? Another scan that’s only visible on the WWW...and he might just turn out to have been their adopted son after all, and not related genetically.
Any attempt to put a final stamp on this saga achieves nothing, it just stifles the debate. It’s QUESTIONS that get you somewhere, not asserting you have all the answers.
If numerous indications point in the direction of there being more than one woman and their id’s were blended to create the myth, you’ll only find them by looking in the cracks, where the mistakes were made, the blending was far from seamless.
Now you need to bring someone forward other than Abercrombie who has gone to ground on the subject, who can confirm without any doubt remaining, that they saw Stanley Ann Dunham and the kenyan student with a baby anywhere, or even just saw HER in Hawaii in 1961 or 1962...
And that leads you straight to why the birth certificate turns out to have severeal layers, and why it’s probably a combination of data that relates to a birth that took place much earlier, and the date and number of the little girl who only lived for one day.
It’s obvious there is someone with a lot of power propping this guy up. The CIA is probably only a small part of it.
I don’t know about the plane crash. But there are a lot of people involved in all of this fraud and not one person is talking.
In the words of Stanley Ann Dunhams teacher and mentor, Alice Dewey, the granddaughter of John Dewey - (translation from Indonesian):
“Global capitalism has shown its failure, and slowly but surely will meet destruction. Obama, he said, trying to rescue the U.S. economy and the world in general from that peril.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=91#91
Still the good little marxist at 82 years of age, speaking in Indonesia, visiting with the royal family.
Thanks for your post, and my apologies to have not seen it before today.
Wish I could read Indonesian! There has recently [to my knowledge] surfaced a photo of Madelyn Dunham standing beside her daughter, who is holding the newborn Maya. There is another older lady in the photo, whose face matches a lady in another photo - of Lolo Soetoro’s mother, with various children, Barry among them.
So we now know the Dunhams visited their daughter in Indonesia at the time she gave birth to Maya. What we don’t know is whether Barry had been visiting them in Hawaii before that, and their trip included bringing him back to Indonesia/mom - OR - if after their Maya-birth visit, their return trip home to Hawaii included taking Barry with them for a visit.
Whichever scenario - we also know that he had his own passport.
I have a feeling I might have posted this translation before - but here goes anyway: (note, there’s no male-female gender in that language)
SKY clouds adorn the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific , in Punchbowl , Honolulu , Friday afternoon ( 14/11 ) .
Hundreds of people gathered in the main courtyard of the garden tomb of the hero was recalled Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham ‘s life who died 2 November 2008 midnight . Most of them are colleagues at the Bank of Hawaii Madelyn and close friends or people who never knew Madelyn . Madelyn was one of the first female banker at Bank of Hawaii . He joined the bank in 1960 and ten years later became one of the vice presidents .
Madelyn and her husband , Stanley Armour Dunham , raising U.S. president-elect Barack Obama at their home in an apartment at the intersection of Punahou and Beretania Street , and finance Obama’s education Punahou School between 1971 to 1979.
Barack and his sister Maya Soetoro - Ng did not attend the tribute to their grandmother . Both are just sending a written message read by the Bank of Hawaii CEO Al Landon .
” When Tutu (a term used for Madelyn Barack and Maya ) realize that the time is getting narrower , he requested that we do not drift in grief . No not afraid to face any storm that accompanied him during the 86 years of his life . We feel lucky to get to spend much time with Tutu . He spends more time raising us from the grandmother in general . And we feel lucky once close to him . We become stronger and wiser because of her . “
The family plans to hold an official funeral in December. Barack expected to be present in the activity .
It is not yet known when the funeral will be conducted .
Madelyn Dunham died just two days before Barack Obama came out as the winner in the presidential election . Since last few years Madelyn cancer . About two weeks before his death , a woman born in Peru , Kansas , October 26, 1922 has been dropped so that his ribs were broken. His health then reportedly critical .
Barack Obama could stop the campaign and return to Hawaii to see his grandmother . Barack Obama did not want the event to recur in 1995 . When it was , because it was so busy with his political career in Chicago , Obama did not have time to see her mother before her mother died. Obama returned to Hawaii a few days later to join Ann Dunham ‘s ashes sprinkled on the southern island of Oahu .
Bodies such as husband and their only child , Madelyn Dunham also cremated bodies . In an email sent a few days ago , Maya Soetoro said his grandmother ‘s ashes arrived in the presidential election , November 4. Maya put it on the table in apartments and organize photos Madelyn husband , children , grandchildren and great-grandchildren Madelyn ashes box around it .
Stanley Armour Dunham ‘s ashes were buried in the tomb of heroes Punchbowl . Stanley Dunham was a sergeant in the Second World War .
Respect for Madelyn yesterday afternoon held by Madelyn colleagues at the Bank of Hawaii . Maya sent a bouquet of pink flowers . Other wreaths sent by friends of the school Madelyn in Kansas , in 1940 ago . Photo Madelyn wood framed with brown and green lei is placed in front of the altar .
One friend Madelyn , Helen Osgood , who got the opportunity to express her memories about said Madelyn Madelyn is a leader and outstanding manager , as well as experts in their field .
” He did not tolerate any nonsense, “ Helen said , adding how Madelyn was so proud of her two grandchildren .
Helen and Madelyn last spoke by telephone on the day of the 86th anniversary of Madelyn , Oct. 26 .
” His last words to me were : talk to me later . “
Madelyn and Stanley Dunham also visited Indonesia . According to the story of Maya Soetoro - Ng , her grandparents arrived in front of their house in Jakarta while his mother , Ann Dunham , who was pregnant with Maya is undergoing contraction . Then with them to the hospital where Maya was born . The day was August 14, 1970 .
No. There is an ongoing CIA program involving people in other nations who our national security interests do not want exposed.
I remember that pic from awhile back; I think its linked to the previous thread, or reposted in this one.
I also recall two pics of the group of children, one with 0’s head looking down and one with him looking ahead.
Many thanks Fred, for all those pics!
Another thought... Ann S ... Anna .... the “s” and the “a” are right next to each other on the keyboard...
Leave out the space and hit the wrong key....
Ann S — —> Anna
No need to thank me, or ask me to post images for you, learn to enter what you want into Google Search, then when the page comes up, hit IMAGES (the word appears across the top on the left) and this is what you get when you enter
OBAMA CHILDHOOD
Here’s some fun for tonight:
Connect the dots:
•. Subud
•. Laurel Canyon
•. Charles Manson
•. B Dohrn
•. B H O
And the beat goes on.....!
Fun fun fun till his daddy took his ________
Nice try, but how does that explain the man in the village in Kenya telling the interviewer IN 2004 that the kenyan student went to America and married a woman named ANNA TOOT?
And that was how many years before Anna Obama showed up in Seattle?
Why didn’t the famous baby-sitter mention her in 2008 when she was interviewed about her stolen yard signs? Didn’t she know that Anna Obama was Stanley Ann Dunham then, or that the child she babysat (in January) was one day to become the potus...?
Mary Mary pull my other leg.
http://redoubtreporter.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/editorial-sign-thefts-a-sad-campaign-reality/
•. Subud
•. Laurel Canyon
•. Charles Manson
•. B Dohrn
•. B H O
you’re a very sick puppy imo - care to serve some sources with that mess of pottage?
I forgot to tell you, that when you find the image you are looking for, if you click on the image, it will take you to the article in which that image appeared.
A mess of pottage is something immediately attractive but of little value taken foolishly and carelessly in exchange for something more distant and perhaps less tangible but immensely more valuable. The phrase alludes to Esau’s sale of his birthright for a meal of lentil stew (”pottage”) in Genesis 25:29–34 and connotes shortsightedness and misplaced priorities.
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