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The strange death of Hawaii’s Department of Health Director, Loretta Fuddy!
You Tube ^ | January 18, 2014 | PPSimmons

Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball

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To: Greenperson

I didn’t have to use my full legal name on my college ID or other items [such as the yearbook]. I used my preferred name, which is a variation of my given name. (I explained all this before. It’s nothing new.)

The credits earned by Anna Obama appear on Stanley Ann’s transcript. I went through all this in the past, too. SADO needed the credits she earned at UW to receive her undergrad degree. Without them she cd not have graduated UH. If Anna Obama was not SADO, then how did her credits from UW end up on SADO’s transcript?


541 posted on 02/02/2014 11:50:38 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Greenperson

Her August, 1961 University of Washington transcript lists the name “Obama, Stanley Ann Dunham.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/were_ann_dunham_and_barack_obama_really_married.html


542 posted on 02/02/2014 11:53:28 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Whalebone Whip; Fred Nerks

http://archives.starbulletin.com/specials/bishop/story2.html

About the broken trust.


543 posted on 02/02/2014 11:59:06 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

Also look under Kelly Ann Dunham who is often listed as a relative of Maddy

Have more information that were holding off posting re banking


544 posted on 02/02/2014 12:09:57 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Greenperson

the INS records that mention Stanley Ann as his wife (but who may give her child up for adoption);


Doesn’t the INS doc just say “Anna S. Obama”?


545 posted on 02/02/2014 12:31:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Greenperson; Brown Deer; David; GregNH
...images said to have come from city directories that mention a woman surnamed Obama. Obama is also a Japanese name and there are many Asians living in Hawaii as well as Seattle.

You've said a mouthful! It is maybe somewhat remotely possible that the Ann S Obama shown in the Polk for Honolulu for 1961 was a Japanese student and a co-tenant, perhaps a student at the East-West Centre...I'm posting the above graphic to confirm that Obama IS also a Japanese name, as you wrote.

The marriage index supplied by the HDOH is about as useful as the birth index. Just lists of names, no dates, nothing. If you go to Google Images for 'birth index' for example, you'll see what the real thing looks like.

546 posted on 02/02/2014 1:02:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Greenperson
... Fuddy would have known about this, given her background and her stepmother.

I think it's safe to assume she knew what-ever Abercrombie knew, and he saw something; so that when he went back for it as he promised he would, it either wasn't there any more or it was something so incriminating, he decided it was better to look stupid and say he couldn't find it.

I think it pays to remember he believed he saw the kenyan with his wife and a baby. He must know by now that wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham. If I were him, and realized that I had been fooled, I would also go deaf dumb and blind on the subject.

547 posted on 02/02/2014 1:09:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Greenperson
...The date of the copy is July 1971? Interesting timing

Might show when the hearing was to try to establish who was who and what was what...like who are the parents of this boy?

548 posted on 02/02/2014 1:12:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Greenperson

So out they come from all directions to beat us over the head with a transcript sent to someone on a website (Corsi) BY E-MAIL WITHOUT ANY PROVENANCE.

A SCAN!

You’ve GOT to be kidding me. If push ever comes to shove, the person who appears to have sent it, could cheerfully say, ‘sorry, I never saw that before in my life’.

How gullible do they think we are? (Don’t answer that) there are numerous freepers happy to fall for it, and Nero, we know your purpose here. It’s to point out without let-up, like a dripping tap, how useless it is to struggle against the tide.

Which makes some people more determined than ever.


549 posted on 02/02/2014 1:25:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Greenperson
...About the broken trust

It's an interesting historical side note and nothing more imo. SAD showed up in Hawaii with the boy when he was about two years old, and then she enrolled at the U of HI Spring 1963. The question remains, where did they come from and who were his parents. Who did he live with, and when did she obtain her first passport? If it was July 1965, where did she go? Why did zero say at an interview he went to Indonesia when he was two years old?

550 posted on 02/02/2014 1:34:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Greenperson
...It fits. Bapak was anti-communist and the CIA was rumored to be involved with the Ceylon assassination...

I think what is chilling is that she was seen by a freeper at a social gathering frequented by anti-Sukarno people. The CIA was certainly involved in his overthrow, as a result of which there was a bloodbath and hundreds of thousands chinese and various 'infidels' lost their lives due to Suharto and his islamic rule. What does that remind you of?

Overthrow the regimes influenced by the USSR and hand the countries over to islam? How's that been working out?

At least there's hope that a people will get out from under the communists, as so many have. But who ever got out from under islam?

551 posted on 02/02/2014 1:44:00 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Greenperson

the comment from muawiah, from 2008. I never forgot it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2148751/posts?page=10#10

unfortunately, like so many good people, he’s been banned or suspended.

And as you pointed out previously, the person named in that gathering was the man who compiled the Indonesian-Englsih Dictionary.


552 posted on 02/02/2014 1:49:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Greenperson; David

I don’t know how many times David has proved that the alleged transcript is a forgery. Corsi got it in an email. No one ever saw a paper copy.


553 posted on 02/02/2014 2:00:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s like a game of ping pong. You can show some people what you see, but if they don’t want to see it, or it doesn’t fit their interpretation, then it just goes back and forth.
What remains however, is that the material they are using to establish something, isn’t worth the SCAN it’s written on.
Try to apply for a job with a scan. Or a driver’s licence with a scan of a COLB, for example.

The least Corsi should have asked for is a hard copy with a verification signed and sealed and delivered in an envelope!

A copy ditto of the ENROLLMENT for ANNA OBAMA whom Charlette Le Fevre indentified as Stanley Ann Dunham might have proven to be interesting. I believe enrollments included a PHOTOGRAPH of the student...

And that little space on the enrollment would be a blank by now, if it still exists...wanna bet?


554 posted on 02/02/2014 2:20:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah

Any minute now I’m going to be tempted to post that Charlette Le Fevre article again. It’s so full of holes you could strain your spaghetti with it.


555 posted on 02/02/2014 2:23:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah

If Wilkie had woken up that Anna Obama wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham, he could have saved himself a lot of anguish, but at least he did figure out something wasn’t quite kosher:

October 30, 2012
Just When Was Obama Born?
By Don Wilkie

It is beyond any reasonable doubt that Neil Abercrombie, Governor of Hawaii, and Ann Dunham’s girlfriends, Susan Blake and Maxine Box, have been telling falsehoods about the President’s origins. It is also beyond any reasonable doubt that there are people within the Obama camp who have managed their fabrications. It now appears that Mary Toutonghi, Ann Dunham’s sometime babysitter in Seattle, was also “managed.”

Mary and her husband were the managers of the Villa Ria apartments located in the Capitol Hill section of Seattle. The apartments were carved out of a large old house. All of the tenants shared a common kitchen. Ann and baby had an apartment on the first floor.

In late 2008, it was revealed that Ann had enrolled in classes at the University of Washington for the fall quarter of 1961. It is clear that the Obama camp was caught off-guard by this revelation. In Obama’s book Dreams from My Father, he claimed that Ann and Obama Sr. along with baby Obama lived together as a family until Obama Sr. left for graduate studies at Harvard. In the retelling, Obama continues to say he was two at the time. In fact, he was not yet one.

To mitigate the Seattle revelation, the Obama camp needed to show that Ann and Obama Sr., though separated, were still very much in love. We thus find Mary making the following improbable statement in January 2009: “[Ann] had told me at one point that because of her husband’s post in the tribe he was going to have to go back to Kenya and marry a black woman, as well. It was a whole different world, so she was accepting of that and hoping she could get back to him soon.”

Ann may have been spinning a tale in 1961, but it seems more likely that Mary was asked to sustain the Obama narrative in 2009 and did. For one, in his recent book, Barack Obama: The Story, David Maraniss confirmed that there was no real relationship between Ann and Obama Sr. For another, Mary plays with the dates in very suspicious ways.

Mary was interviewed before the release of Obama’s purported birth certificate. It was important to have witnesses confirm an early August birth. Susan Blake claimed that Obama was “pink and very new” in late August 1961, just “three-weeks old.” Mary Toutonghi remembers a seven-month-old whom she babysat in the beginning of 1962. The question is — was she mistaken about the date of first encounter?

To jog her memory, Mary recounted the age of her own daughter: “[She] was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 [this has been verified] and that would have placed the months of babysitting Barack in January and February of 1962.” Those dates, however, don’t add up. A child born in July 1959 would be 18 months old in January/February of 1961, several months before Ann reportedly moved to Seattle.

Perhaps to rectify this problem, Mary tried another way to remember the time she babysat. In a 2009 WND interview, Mary stated, “My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year ... so that would make the time around February and March 1962.” Again, the math doesn’t work. The year 2009 minus 50 gives us the correct birth year for Mary’s child, but adding 18 months again brings us to January/February of 1961.

If Obama were seven months old in early 1962, this would more or less validate an August 1961 birth. It appears that Mary might have thought that Ann and child moved into the Villa Ria apartments in early 1962 as well. She relates that “Ann Dunham and the baby moved in while we were there ... I can’t remember when she moved in, but the baby was seven months old.”

As with Susan Blake, the remembered dates of Obama’s age at first sighting are too precise. Who remembers that a baby is “three weeks old” or “seven months old” besides the child’s own mother? These seem like implanted memories. Nor would any mother mistake even another woman’s child for a three-week-old infant for a seven-month-old baby.

Here the Obama camp has a problem. We now know that Ann and baby moved into Mary’s apartment house in late August or early September 1961. This is confirmed by David Maraniss as well as by Marc Leavipp in the registrar’s office of the University of Washington. Ann is also listed in the 1961-1962 Seattle Polk Directory at the Capitol Hill address.

The reader will recall that, before Maraniss, several mainstream Obama biographers — Janny Scott of the New York Times, Sally Jacobs of the Boston Globe, and the New Yorker’s David Remnick — finessed Ann’s arrival in Seattle forward to early 1962 to sustain the illusion of a real marriage between Ann and Obama Sr. Mary’s story squares with theirs. Wittingly or not, they may all have been “managed” by the Obama camp.

Still, there is something about the 18-month differential between the age of Mary’s daughter and young Obama that rings true. It is altogether possible that Mary saw a seven-month-old Obama — not in February 1962, but in late August of 1961. If so, Obama could not have been born on August 4, 1961, as claimed.

If we assume that Mary’s statement is correct, that Obama was seven months old in August/September of 1961, then many things begin to make sense. First-time mother and 18-year-old Ann Dunham did not improbably take her three-week-old infant from Hawaii to Seattle so she could enroll in school; she waited until he was seven months old and more easily cared for. Obama was not born in August of 1961; he was born in February 1961. Mary’s daughter was not 18 months old when Mary babysat; she was 18 months older than Obama. Remember too that Maraniss, Scott, Jacobs and Remnick all are totally — and inexplicably — silent on Ann’s whereabouts from February to August 1961.

The sham marriage of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, Sr. would have probably taken place in February of 1961, just before or after the baby was born. This would also mean that Barack Obama, Sr. the man, “married in name only,” who has no physical resemblance to our president, could not be the biological father; there just wasn’t enough time. For Obama Sr. to work as the real biological father, an early August birth date is about as soon as a child could be born. This would explain the story of an unlikely meeting in a Russian class and the rapid seduction of Ann. It would also explain why Obama’s birth certificate appears to many experts to be a forgery. Obviously, if Obama was born in February 1961, the birth certificate would have to be “modified.”

Is Mary’s statement the “smoking gun”? Did she innocently reveal a truth the Obama camp has been fighting hard to keep covered up? She has never once mentioned seeing a newborn. It would stand to reason that if Obama was really just three weeks old when Mary first saw him, that would be what she would remember. A seven-month-old Obama in late August 1961 would make sense on several levels.

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556 posted on 02/02/2014 2:32:00 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah

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557 posted on 02/02/2014 2:40:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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Another Legend who lived on Capitol Hill
along with Bruce Lee, Frances Farmer, Kurt Cobain and Jimi Hendrix
Mystery of Barack Obama’s first year solved

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and Barack Obama

Baby Sitting Barack Obama on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill
by Charlette LeFevre and Philip Lipson
Seattle Museum of the Mysteries
1/28/09

Mary Toutonghi, 2009

A simple act of of kindness confirms President Barack Obama residence as an infant in 1962 on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill.

As we were researching the residence of the Capitol Hill apartment that Ann Dunham and her son Barack Obama had lived in 1961 to 1962, (1) - a residence that certainly wasn¹t Abraham Lincoln¹s log cabin but none the less historical, we were also able to find one of the former residents listed in a directory- Mary Toutonghi. Much to our delight it turned out Mary actually knew Ann Dunham and had baby sat baby Barack for two months giving insight on his first year and what it must have been like for Ann Dunham as a single parent.

Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962.

During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham. Anna was obviously confident enough with Mary to have her baby sit her son Barack and confide in her about her future plans. Mary strains to remember the days back over forty five years ago and relates that she did not know why Anna was in Seattle but remembers she was ³anxious to get back to her husband². ³She told me they would be going to Kenya when she finished her education which she had promised her parents when she had married, but because her husband had an obligation to his tribe she realized he would have to take another wife that was a full blooded Kenyan². Mary commented that ³I don¹t think I could have been that brave.²

Mary explained most of the people in the apartment house were Seniors and were retired so it was most likely she was the only one in the house able to baby sit Barack. Mary was a stay at home mother while her husband was taking classes at the nearby Seattle University. She lived directly below Anna and Barack in the level she calls the basement. She remembers the windows in their basement apartment being at chin level and she had a great view of the yard and trees. One day she recalls with laughter, a squirrel had fallen through the one of the ground level windows and after quickly scampering up its tree scolded the family for a good hour.

Mary goes on to relate after we sent her a 1937 photo of the apartment from Washington State Archives, the apartment Anna and Barack lived in was the on the first main floor and the windows looked out over the street. Anna and baby Barack¹s apartment in the photo were the three paned windows on the far right corner of the building above the garage. The main floor had been divided into four studio apartments about 500 square feet each- indeed, a tiny apartment compared to the White House. The first house of Barack Obama no longer exists having been torn down in 1985. An apartment complex now is on the block along with twin residential towers ³Capitol Park² owned by Seattle Housing Authority.

Mary also laughs when asked for pictures saying ³We were in survival mode and not taking pictures². Mary remembers Anna as ³very mature who never complained and met her obligations². Anna was taking night classes at the University of Washington and according to the University of Washington¹s registrar¹s office her major was listed as History. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in the fall of 1961, took a full course load in the Spring of 1962 and had her transcript transferred to the University of Hawaii in the Fall of 1962.

Along with the Seattle Polk Directory, Marc Leavipp of the University of Washington Registrar¹s office confirms 516 13th Ave. E. was the address Ann Dunham had given upon registering at the University. Today, when one looks back to the small apartment in 1962 in which a kind neighbor helped care for our nation¹s leader and a struggling mother strived to get an education, its inspiring to know that even small gestures in the most difficult of situations can help a baby rise from humble beginnings to achieve greatness.

Ann Dunham later received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from the Univ. of Hawaii.

Mary Toutonghi now lives in Soldatna Alaska and was 2001 President of the Alaska Speech-Language-Hearing Association.

And one little baby grew up to achieve the audacity of hope.

Permission to copy this article is granted provided full context is posted and credited to authors.

Mary Toutonghi photo courtesy of Mary Toutonghi and Jenny Neyman.
House photo was provided by: Washington State Archives, Puget Sound Branch, King County Assessor Property Record Card collection photograph (1937).
1. Barack Obama: from Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill by Charlette LeFevre, www.capitolhilltimes.com
2. Obama baby sitter awaits new era ‹ Soldotna woman eager for former charge¹s reign By Jenny Neyman, Redoubt Reporter, Soldotna AK, 1/20/09


558 posted on 02/02/2014 2:41:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham.

I'll repeat myself for the nth time and suggest that the reason Mary referred to her tenant as Anna was because Anna was her name, and that's why she was listed in the Polk as Anna.


559 posted on 02/02/2014 2:51:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

The upside is that people who haven’t been following the research for years see good stuff; those who don’t want to see - DON’T MATTER!

:-D


560 posted on 02/02/2014 3:00:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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