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The Civil War movie 'every conservative needs to see' (Copperhead)
Politico ^ | July 29, 2013 | Patrick Gavin

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:15:08 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

Conservatives are grabbing popcorn and lining up to catch a new historical drama with modern connections.

“Copperhead,” the new film from director Ron Maxwell, focuses on the Northern opponents of the American Civil War and stars Billy Campbell, Angus MacFadyen and Peter Fonda.

At least one conservative — Richard Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com — emailed his audience to tell it about the movie “that every conservative needs to see.”

“[W]hile Copperhead is about the Civil War, believe me, it will hit close to home for every conservative fighting to preserve our Constitution and our American way of life,” Viguerie wrote. “Because Copperhead is about standing up for faith, for America, and for what’s right, just like you and I are doing today. In fact, I’ve never seen a movie with more references to the Constitution, or a movie that better sums up our current fight to stand up for American values and get our nation back on track.”

The movie, which is based on the novel by Harold Frederic, follows Abner Beech, a New York farmer who doesn’t consider himself a Yankee, and is against slavery and war in general.

Asked about whether he sees his film as conservative, Maxwell told POLITICO, “I think if ‘Copperhead’ has any relevance at all, in addition to illuminating a time and place from our common heritage, it’s as a cinematic meditation on the price of dissent. I’ve never thought of dissent as a political act belonging to the right or left. It’s an act of liberty, expression of the rights of a free person — free not just in law but free from the confines and pressures of the tyranny of the majority.”

Maxwell said while the concept of dissent is as “old as time,” in the U.S., “it’s protected in the Constitution.”

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To: NKP_Vet
NORTH CAROLINA sent 127,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS to fight for the Confederacy and lost 40,375 of her brave sons, double the loss of any other state.

Nope. Here's a neat site showing CSA deaths by state. NC and VA are roughly tied, with AL not far behind.

Since VA had a population of 1.2M or so, and NC about 1M, NC lost a slightly higher percentage of its men. But nowhere near double.

http://www.civilwar.org/education/civil-war-casualties.html

It's surprising how unevenly the deaths were distributed.

81 posted on 07/30/2013 10:31:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: jim_trent

The idea that a copperhead aka “peace democrat” would be part of the underground railroad is a sick joke meant to whitewash that fact that northern democrats never did switch parties like the modern liberals try and push with the the myth of the southern strategy...


82 posted on 07/30/2013 10:50:30 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

You have succinctly explained why BOTH sides lost the war.


83 posted on 07/30/2013 11:09:46 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: central_va

Be sure to fire the first shot.


84 posted on 07/30/2013 11:16:47 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Vigilanteman
I think the degree of difference is so large as to be beyond comparison.

The South did not institute any embargo until after Lincoln attacked Sumter and Pensacola.

85 posted on 07/30/2013 11:27:31 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Sherman Logan

Virginia has always wanted the top spot in battlefield deaths. In 1866 they were in fourth place. For 140 years they’ve been counting. So we say that NC and Virginia are basically tied in battlefield deaths. I can deal with that.
NC, with fewer men, sent some 132 thousand men to fight for the cause, compared to Virginia’s 120,000. Maybe their still counting these numbers too.


86 posted on 07/30/2013 11:27:35 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: PeaRidge; central_va

Actually - be sure to get er done in one shot...


87 posted on 07/30/2013 11:41:48 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: NKP_Vet

Here’s an interesting discussion of the issue.

http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/169/which-confederate-state-provided-the-most-troops-in-the-american-civil-war

What it probably comes down to is that the numbers are too incomplete to provide a really accurate answer. The Union Army figures are reasonably complete and accurate. CSA, not so much.


88 posted on 07/30/2013 11:42:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: reg45

Lincoln was elected as per the Constitution, that’s all you need to know or worry about.


89 posted on 07/30/2013 11:52:27 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Sherman Logan

Mos sources say 120,000 men from Virginia served in the Confederate Army. 133,000 from North Carolina served in the Confederate Army. North Carolina was the only state that provided it’s men with uniforms and after the war compiled the best records of any other state. They also provided free prostetics to men who has lost limbs, and a pension for anyone that applied, including black confederates. No accurate number of black confederates that served or were killed has been accomplished, at least I have not heard of one.


90 posted on 07/30/2013 12:04:02 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: pgkdan

The south won last time. The insurrection was put down, and the vicious and wealthy plantation owners that enslaved black and white lost the power to enslave.


91 posted on 07/30/2013 12:21:37 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Spooner also published manifestos (after the War) that the Constitution was only binding on those who actually signed it. All of whom were of course long-dead by then.

"The Constitution of No Authority" is an interesting read. It's available via Gutenberg

92 posted on 07/30/2013 12:21:56 PM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: reg45

Lincoln won a majority of the votes that mattered. Even if the Democrats ran a single candidate and got all the votes that they got with different candidates, Lincoln would have won.

The party of slavery just wasn’t very popular in most of the country.


93 posted on 07/30/2013 12:23:15 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va

Perhaps you mean ‘differently biased’.


94 posted on 07/30/2013 12:23:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Sherman Logan
BTW, more accurate analysis indicates total number of Americans dying in the war was upwards of 750,000, not 600,000.

I thought that only about 250,000 Americans died in the war--the rest were Yankees.

95 posted on 07/30/2013 12:26:02 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: CodeToad

The south started the insurrection and war to protect, further, and extend the institution of human slavery.

The United States put down their violent insurrection.


96 posted on 07/30/2013 12:26:31 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

My personal choice would be a study of the 1st Alababama Cavalry, the cavalry unit that General Sherman trusted above all others.


97 posted on 07/30/2013 12:28:49 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: CodeToad

But there would not be any Slavery for which the south would start their insurrection.

Unless you propose an insurrection to restore slavery?


98 posted on 07/30/2013 12:31:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: reg45
In the election of 1860, Abraham Lincoln did not win even 40% of the votes. Only the fact that he had three opponents enabled him to receive a plurality of the vote and win the election.

But he did receive an absolute majority of the votes in enough states to be elected. So even if the Democrats had united behind Douglas, Lincoln still would have won.

99 posted on 07/30/2013 12:36:05 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va
I volunteer to play the role of Edmund Ruffin.

Edmund Ruffin in April 1861? Or Edmund Ruffin in June 1865?

100 posted on 07/30/2013 12:38:16 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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