Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[Elsie]

I just wanted people to see how much ignorance there is on basic tenets of Judaism, and how we’re called liars after repeatedly harassed to answer questions about it.

I know JUST what you mean!!!

--MormonDude(It is SO hard to convince folks about cureloms these days!)

[Elsie]

those of us who’s salvation is “BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH”.....

We are on the same page on this one!

[Elsie]

I’m not a great Christian, not a theologian, or even an educated man.

And yet you have given ME a great education!

One I would probably would have not gotten if FR had never been created.

Thank you.

[Elsie]

And then there is ELSIE; a pesky varmit who apparently has no life.

Only time he’s been gone is when he received a much needed time out.

[Elsie]

He promised Abraham our father that we would be His people forever.

Wasn't there an 'IF' in that promise somewhere?

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It seems like things got a little iffy after that...

 

Exodus 32:7, "Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt.".

Exodus 32:9-10:
"(The Lord said), 'I have seen these people and they are a stiff-necked people...leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.'

 

[Elsie]

...the crevo threads have that distinction.

I cut my teeth in those threads!

[Elsie]

I am no more ashamed that the goyim on this website who insist on telling us Jews we’re going to hell for being Jews.

Well; it was a NON-'goyim' that reportedly said this:

John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

I guess a fella can either believe it or not; as we really won't know until it's too late. (uh... I believe...)

[Elsie]

I understand, now, a little more of the journey you are on.

“I stand at the door and knock...”

[Kevmo]

I just wanted people to see how much ignorance there is on basic tenets of Judaism
***She’s admitting to hijacking the thread. This thread is about Romney/Ryan and secondarily about mormonism. Then when I used this as an opportunity to preach the gospel, she got all bent out of shape & tried to get the thread shut down.

[Elsie]

Protestants can never be specific, they keep repeating one line.

O...
K...

[Elsie]

WHY did the Counter Reformation happen?

[Elsie]

But as far as the abortion quotes, you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan was pro choice also and switched! Yet you will not give Romney that same grace that you have given Reagan.

But; Reagan was NOT some high mucky-muck in a religion that supposedly values human life.

Romney was.

Therefore, was Romney FAKING it about his religion, during the time he had a pro-choice stance?

[Elsie]

But as far as the abortion quotes, you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan was pro choice also and switched! Yet you will not give Romney that same grace that you have given Reagan.

But; Reagan was NOT some high mucky-muck in a religion that supposedly values human life.

Romney was.

Therefore, was Romney FAKING it about his religion, during the time he had a pro-choice stance?

[Elsie]

... a religion that supposedly values human life.

That is; unless prayers are said to it's god and confirmation comes that it is ok to kill the fetus.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Agreed. Once Romney wins, Ryan is going to be put out to pasture. Ryan was picked because he is a true Conservative.

[Elsie]

I want the anti Mormon doctrine posts off political threads and in the religion forum.

So do WE!

Yeah!!

What THEY said!

[Elsie]

Romney was simply more deceived than Reagan was at one time.

It comes with the territory.

[Elsie]

I’ll bet those hands have held wood!

[Elsie]

Remember: When abortion is again illegal; women will go back to having D&C’s.

[Elsie]

I look to Ryan more than Romney actually.

Is there a counterpart on DU that says, "I look to BIDEN more than OBAMA actually." ?