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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: fabian

he has been this way for years now.
***For as long as he’s been running for president. With no record to back it up. The guy is a freepin’ liar and you’re buying into it hook, line and sinker.


4,921 posted on 08/17/2012 9:10:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian

He sounded to me more like a foolishly weak man going along with the leftist women in that regard.
***Well, THAT sounds like a good reason to vote for the man. /s


4,922 posted on 08/17/2012 9:17:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian
Show me one single clip where he is saying it is right to commit abortion. One please.

No one talks like that but Romney has given probably the most heart felt, loving statement about the importance of legal abortion, of anyone that we have ever seen.

Legal abortion is needed to prevent tragedies like he endured.

Go to the 60 second mark of this 86 second video

Here is Mitt Romney PERSONALLY fund raising for abortions.
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4,924 posted on 08/17/2012 9:23:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

He is clearly overly influenced their by a death from an illegal abortion and his mom when she ran for office. That is HARDLY a cheerleader for abortion! Good grief.. you guys are so reactionary it is ridiculous..Jim too! And he is clearly stating that his belief is that abortion is indeed wrong!


4,925 posted on 08/17/2012 9:29:10 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No matter who wins this election, conservatism loses.


4,926 posted on 08/17/2012 9:30:47 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian

i am not accusing anyone here ...but I really wonder if some are actually leftist plants in order to help Obama. Honestly sounds like it. Makes no sense at all the way you guys are overreacting to admittedly Romney’s past weaknesses.


4,927 posted on 08/17/2012 9:30:47 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian; Jim Robinson
ok..so Reagan never believed in pro choice? If so , than I am wrong. How about Henry Hyde...he certainly was pro choice, correct? There are many examples of such people switching. And for you to call Romney a cheerleader for abortion is not true, right? He sounded to me more like a foolishly weak man going along with the leftist women in that regard. Show me one single clip where he is saying it is right to commit abortion. One please.

Romney: Abortion Should be Legal

Romney on Abortion - 2002 - "There's not a papers width of difference between our positions on this issue (Kennedy)"


4,928 posted on 08/17/2012 9:34:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: fabian

I really wonder if some are actually leftist plants in order to help Obama.
***Yeah, right. I started 2 months after JimRob. Anyone else from the class of 98 or 97 you wanna accuse of being leftist plants? How about JimRob himself? I notice you go for that bowlsheet as soon as your argument upthread has been smashed.


4,929 posted on 08/17/2012 9:34:33 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’d rather take a chance with a politician that flips “like a seal” to win polls

It's good you aim low - mitt is hell bent to keep you there.

4,930 posted on 08/17/2012 9:36:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kevmo

Nothing was smashed at all..and I did not accuse..I wrote that at the beginning..daaaa! But you guys are certainly doing their bidding to some degree unwittingly. So darned reactionary...too bad.


4,931 posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:24 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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i am not accusing anyone here ...but I really wonder if some are actually leftist plants in order to help Obama. Honestly sounds like it. Makes no sense at all the way you guys are overreacting to admittedly Romney’s past weaknesses.

Like hell you aren't!

At least be honest about it.

Overreacting to this record????


4,932 posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: fabian
admittedly Romney’s past weaknesses.

Being Pro Abortion, initiated same sex marriage and socialistic healthcare ARE NOT weaknesses, they are deliberate and deliberately EVIL.

4,933 posted on 08/17/2012 9:40:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SoConPubbie; fabian
i am not accusing anyone here ...but I really wonder if some are actually leftist plants in order to help Obama. Honestly sounds like it. Makes no sense at all the way you guys are overreacting to admittedly Romney’s past weaknesses.

The only "leftist plants" here at FreeRepublic are those who pretend Mitt's record isn't a left-wing, Progressive record, even after being presented with overwhelming evidence over and over again.
4,934 posted on 08/17/2012 9:41:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: fabian

How can a politician be a bigger cheerleader for abortion than what you have just seen?

He campaigns on it, appoints judges to protect it, fund raises for it, writes checks to it, campaigns for pro-abortion democrat candidates running against republicans, and you still don’t accept that he was aggressively pro-abortion?

You are just playing troll games now.


4,935 posted on 08/17/2012 9:41:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I guess you did not pay attention to what he said there nor what I wrote. He was not campaigning cheer leading for abortion..and he was saying that he felt morally that it was wrong! Why don’t you get a clue please. Good heavens.


4,936 posted on 08/17/2012 9:44:02 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

But you guys are certainly doing their bidding to some degree unwittingly. So darned reactionary...too bad.
***The owner of the site sees it this way, and so do the core principled conservatives. If we’re so reactionary, why bother posting on this site? This is a conservative website, not a republican website.


4,937 posted on 08/17/2012 9:45:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12

Just keep right on fighting our best hope, especially with Ryan now..for vanquishing the communists who have almost totally taken over our nation. Go ahead...you just make yourself out to look like a reactionary foolish person.


4,938 posted on 08/17/2012 9:46:16 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

fighting our best hope,
***If Romney is your best hope, you may as well give up hope. No matter who wins this election, conservatism loses.


4,939 posted on 08/17/2012 9:48:04 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Romney did what he campaigned on as Gov.

Maybe he will do the same now.

If he is elected and governs from the right like he says he will, would you have a kind word for him?

Romney has been called many things, but not to my recollection a liar.


4,940 posted on 08/17/2012 9:48:04 PM PDT by zeebee
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