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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Kevmo

I know that, but others need to see that as well.


4,761 posted on 08/17/2012 3:37:50 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

BTTT!!


4,762 posted on 08/17/2012 3:42:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JewishRighter

Goyim like this lilliputian Kevmo have been bashing their empty (and often malicious) skulls against the Eternal bond between Hashem and the Jewish people for centuries upon centuries.
***So you defend the dishonesty of the other poster. That doesn’t make you look very good, nor does it reflect well on your religion.


4,763 posted on 08/17/2012 3:45:47 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: roylene

the person you are speaking to maybe the most anti-Christian person,
***Nahh, the crevo threads have that distinction. They make SF look like a pussycat.


4,764 posted on 08/17/2012 3:47:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JewishRighter

not billions of followers of a false god can take this away from Hashem’s people.
***So, then a person who preaches about a false god, things antithetical to your religion, are they good in Judaism? Because the poster whom you’re defending said they are.


4,765 posted on 08/17/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: metmom

Well, now she’s got a bunch of her buddies on their way to this thread to spread further distortions and insults.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=4756#4756


4,766 posted on 08/17/2012 3:54:02 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

NO! S0 - keep it honest. Seems more you don’t want to make it about his politics either - you just want to vote for him.

His politics IS the reason I would never vote for him. I didn’t sign up to the GOP for the ‘standards’ they accept now. I never changed, they did. So I don’t have to/will NOT accept what they accept now.

His religion and barry’s make them who/what they are. As it is with those casting votes- their act is predicated on their belief and according to their depth in it. You can’t get away from one’s faith - having it’s voice heard in the choices we make. And having no faith is still a faith/belief.


4,768 posted on 08/17/2012 3:59:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: All

The scepter departed from Judah when the Romans invaded; the ruler’s staff left from between his feet. Judah lost self determination at that time. This would suggest that the 2nd half of the verse has been mistranslated in the given version, because it does not make sense. Otherwise, it’s simply wrong, a false prophecy, which would make all of Jacob’s prophecies at the time false prophecies.


4,769 posted on 08/17/2012 4:01:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: presently no screen name

NO! S0 - keep it honest.
***Best of luck with that. I gave up.


4,770 posted on 08/17/2012 4:02:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JewishRighter
Every Jew has a share in the world to come, as it says: “And your people are all righteous, they shall inherit the land forever; a branch of My plantings, My handiwork, in which to be glorified”.

Right. Now explain what "IT" is.

4,771 posted on 08/17/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JewishRighter; sf4dubya; Kevmo; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Zionist Conspirator; blasater1960; ..
*goyim*????

Really?!

And the response by the the mods to a post using a derogatory name for a Jew would be what?

You know, that kind of characterization of a non-Jew by a Jew does not reflect well on all the really good and decent Jews out there.

It's as bad as the anti-Semetic bigotry demonstrated by some non-Jews.

You should be ashamed of yourself resorting to that kind of language.

4,772 posted on 08/17/2012 4:04:50 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kevmo; sf4dubya; Zionist Conspirator; blasater1960; Phinneous; justiceseeker93; CWSNTEXAS; ...
***So you defend the dishonesty of the other poster. That doesn’t make you look very good, nor does it reflect well on your religion.

I wasn't defending anybody's lies. I was attacking the falsehood of your empty claims about the bleak spiritual future of Jews who don't accept your "god" and the error of continuing Jewish faith in the One true G-d, Hashem; those claims are as false as the dubious scriptures and ridiculous translations of the true Torah scripture they are based on.

I realize that I may get zotted for what I am saying, but I am simply going to tell the truth as I understand it, because I've become sick and tired of a double standard maintained in theology discussions. I tried many times to be respectful and I truly do admire the fine character and morals of many Christians who sincerely try to become better human beings through their spirituality. I always maintained that it can be nothing but harmful to Jewish-Christian relationships to engage in polemics about which one is right. This thread and other recent ones proved me 1000% right.

If you and others claim the right to offer your "candid" views of Judaism, I will respond in kind. If you can't understand why your "candid" views are so offensive, it beggars the imagination that you can apparently operate a computer. Now bug off before I tell you how I really feel.

4,773 posted on 08/17/2012 4:09:28 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter
He promised Abraham our father that we would be His people forever.

Do you HAVE THE FAITH your father Abraham had?

4,774 posted on 08/17/2012 4:09:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kevmo; sf4dubya; Zionist Conspirator; blasater1960; Phinneous; justiceseeker93; CWSNTEXAS; ...
***So you defend the dishonesty of the other poster. That doesn’t make you look very good, nor does it reflect well on your religion.

Is that all you got? Can't really argue substance? I thought so. We Jews are Hashem's eternal people. I realize our pesky insistence on remaining Jewish gets under your skin. Too bad.

I wasn't defending anybody's lies. I was attacking the falsehood of your empty claims about the bleak spiritual future of Jews who don't accept your "god" and the error of continuing Jewish faith in the One true G-d, Hashem; those claims are as false as the dubious scriptures and ridiculous translations of the true Torah scripture they are based on.

4,776 posted on 08/17/2012 4:12:22 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: sf4dubya

Oh please judge me. Let’s hear it.
________________________________

OK I will...

I’ve been wondering all along just how good a Jew you might be...

Yesterday you grilled me about the Noahide Laws for Gentiles demanding to know if I adhered to them...

You explained frequently to me and other Christian FReepers that those laws were given by God for us the Gentiles and not for Jews...

You repeating also frequently that another different set of laws numbering 613 laws applied to you as a Jew...

Among the SEVEN Noahide Laws was the one that commanded us to honor our parents...

Now as a Bible believing Christian I beli8eve and obey the Ten Commandments in the Book of Exodus 20:12 in the Old Testament of the Chritian Bible which also includes the instructions Thou shalt honor thy father and mother...

In the New Testament in Ephesians 6:1-3 Paul tells us to Honor our parents as this is the first commandment with promise that your days will be long in the land that your LORD God has given you...and Colossians 3:20 Obey your parents...

In the Proverbs 20:20 we are told that if we curse our father of mother our “lamp will be put out”

In Proverbs 1:20 we are told to “hear the instruction of your father, and forsake not the law of your mother”

Now Dearie, please explain why you have blantantly boasted that you dont honor your parentsand in fact are in disobedience to God and them ???

Hintipoo: YOUR TAGLINE

From your 613

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not listen to them: when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Deuteronomy 21:18=21


4,777 posted on 08/17/2012 4:13:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: metmom
Gentle, kind friend. From Wikipedia:

Goy (Hebrew: גוי‎, regular plural goyim גוים or גויים) is the standard Hebrew biblical term for a "nation," including the "great nation" of Israel. Use of the plural, "nations," to refer to non-Jews is found from "I will cast out the nations before thee" (Exodus 34:24) and long before Roman times it had also acquired the meaning of "gentile". The latter is also its meaning in Yiddish.In the Torah/Hebrew Bible, goy and its variants appear over 550 times in reference to Israelites and to Gentile nations.[citation needed] The first recorded usage of goy occurs in Genesis 10:5 and applies innocuously to non-Israelite nations. The first mention in relation to the Israelites comes in Genesis 12:2, when God promises Abraham that his descendants will form a goy gadol ("great nation"). In Exodus 19:6, the Jewish people are referred to as a goy kadosh, a "holy nation."[3] While the earlier books of the Hebrew Bible often use goy to describe the Israelites, the later ones tend to apply the term to other nations.
Some Bible translations leave the word Goyim untranslated and treat it as the proper name of a country in Genesis 14:1, where it states that the "King of Goyim" was Tidal. Bible commentaries suggest that the term may refer to Gutium.[1]

4,778 posted on 08/17/2012 4:13:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kevmo

Good? That’s up to Hashem. Only He knows the truth about every human being.


4,779 posted on 08/17/2012 4:17:13 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: sf4dubya
Oh please judge me. Let’s hear it.

YOU are accused of taking this thread OFF TOPIC.

Romney IS NOT A JEW!! STAY FOCUSED!! He's a CULT LEADER IN MORMONISM - the opposite end of the scale! And his politics are from the pit!

4,780 posted on 08/17/2012 4:17:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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