If that is her, it's listed as "Anna".
Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma
Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines
The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Your dear usurper also visited SCOTUS on January 14, 2009, hmmm!!!
That's true. You can ask them about the Alien conspiracy to take over the govt and they'll tell you loads too....
And there’s no ANNA because ANNA OBAMA who lived in Seattle was probably the wife in the Philippines from whom the kenyan was separated, who had the baby that Mary baby-sat in January 1961, when her own daughter, who was born in July, 1959, was 18 months of age...
That little boy was more than likely born in Hawaii, that’s why the name is on the Hawaii birth index, but the mother’s name is ANNA (maiden name unknown)because it cannot be Stanley Ann Dunham, for when that child was conceived, Stanley Ann Dunham would still have been in high school somewhere.
The original, the one and only Barack Hussein Obama 11 was the child of ANNA AND BARACK OBAMA. Anna went back to the Philippines, zero, who showed up in Hawaii at the age of three...name and parents unknown...was given the name of the child of Anna and the kenyan.
I agree with everything except I am wondering about the various people who have some sort of evidence of someone having a baby in Kenya; for instance, the missionaries. I am wondering if Anna went there, or is that all something else, of unknown provenance/???.
To me it’s very obvious that the Anna in Seattle is NOT Stanley Ann; Ayers and Zero never ever mentioned Stanley being in WA until Anna was found in the Polk directory so they had to invent on the fly.
sorry, missed the later post.
There is no way to verify anything about Obama’s new cartoon unless it is allowed to be examined.
I was saving for my future Zot contribution.
I am glad the Jim has let it be known that he will engage in typical REDSTATE commie practices to maintain. It is like Eric got nto him.
I am a BIRTHER and BIRCHER!
Anyone notice the number of the beast for my critical review of someone I know to be my friend?
It's possible. The kenyan's initial sponsors were Missionaries, did travel to Kenya. I think it might be unwise to post too much of their histroy and background here, there were also connections to the Philippines in that group. However, if the child of Anna was NOT born in Hawaii, the inclusion of the name on the (undated) birth index indicates a birth certificate application in Hawaii FOR A CHILD BORN IN KENYA.
To me it’s very obvious that the Anna in Seattle is NOT Stanley Ann; Ayers and Zero never ever mentioned Stanley being in WA until Anna was found in the Polk directory so they had to invent on the fly.
Charlette Le Fevre from Seattle Mystery Tours identified ANNA OBAMA as Stanley Ann Dunham BEFORE SHE CONTACTED MARY IN ALASKA. Mary herself said she baby-sat for ANNA when her own daughter, who was born in July 1958, was 18 months old.
Mary's story was changed after it was pointed out to her that was IMPOSSIBLE. Finding ANNA wasn't supposed to happen, but once discovered in the Polk, they had to turn her into Stanley Ann Dunham. Fast!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2731448/posts?page=668#668
‘Her name is listed as Anna Obama’ because that’s who she was...and I think she was ‘the wife living in the Philippines from whom he is separated’.
People forget just how hard it was to fill out those old forms with a manual typewriter. If you put in the paper even slightly crookedly, your writing would go up or down at an angle to the lines on the form. So you might try to correct it and get it wrong again. Also, if you left one item or box unfilled, you'd have a hard time going back to exactly the right position with respect to the line.
If you find a document with printing too well positioned with respect to the lines, and letters too clear, without gunk or blurring or that raised effect one so often sees in typewritten document, it's more likely that the document is a fake.
What skeptics are pointing too as signs of forgery look more like marks of authenticity. We can't say that the document is authentic, but people are looking at the wrong things in the document and drawing the wrong conclusions from them.
It looks like what they'd want is a document that was impossibly, uncannily perfect for the times and the technology available. Of course if the document was like that, it really would be an obvious forgery.
It's a little bizarre, the idea of some forger painstakingly going through and drawing letters that recreate the effect of a document filled out with a manual typewriter and the document being attacked as a cheap botched forgery because the forger so exactly recreated the effects a manual typewriter would produce.
It must be nice to be so ignorant and assert that there are 200 years of law when that is false. Somehow, your opinion does not have the weight of that of John Marshall, Livingston, Storey, Tucker, Ramsay and Pinckney and quite a few others who actually knew about the question and the intent of the founders.
I seriously doubt anybody hand drew the characters. There are fonts out there that were like the old typewriter fonts; some even come with standard font sets. Designing a new font by hand takes time. But it would be easy enough to drop in the letters of the font set you're going to need and tweak them into a new set; there's software for that. Then install on your computer, highly unlikely that was done either.
Manual typewriters were pretty much the same as electrics with getting the paper aligned straight; if you do enough of it, you get pretty good at getting it right the first time. I've gone about as far as I care to go with this pixel peeping business.
Noted.
The world has gone mad.
Rough road ahead.
Exactly so. And too bad for them, and good for the truth, Mary let slip that part about her daughter’s DOB and age when she babysat.
Messes up their lies.
The part of the story I like the best is, when Charlette Le Fevre says...’Mary called her Anna, so we know that she was talking about Stanley Ann Dunham’.(paraphrased, for accuracy, I will post an excerpt)
And then, when the ages just don’t match the storyline, Charlette maintains Mary must have been mistaken about the age of her daughter!
And the way they set the entire thing up to start with:
http://oldwiki.capitolhillcommunitycouncil.org/forum/t-112935/ann-dunham-s-apartment
Ann Dunham’s apartment
Leif 14 Dec 2008, 07:54 GMT+11
Hi, does anyone happen to know where the apartment is/was where B. Obama’s mother lived on Capitol Hill? I’m really interested in Seattle history and have been striking out on the exact address. Apparently, before the C. Hill apt. she lived at a “Laurelhurst dormitory” near UW, but I don’t know exactly where that is either, or if it still exists.
Reply | Options Unfold Ann Dunham’s apartment by Leif, 14 Dec 2008, 07:54 GMT+11 Fold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment
Charlette 2 Jan 2009, 17:09 GMT+11
Hi Leif,
Interesting inquiry. If Stanley Ann Dunham was living on Capitol Hill that means our next President Barack Obama also lived on Capitol Hill as an infant. (Interesting he is going from Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill). If the time period was from around March 1962 to at least September 1962 then Barack Obama would have been around 7 months old.
There is a possiblity if Ann signed on with UW as a student that UW Housing may have records.
Reply | Options Unfold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment by Charlette, 2 Jan 2009, 17:09 GMT+11 Fold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment
Charlette 7 Jan 2009, 18:16 GMT+11
Confirmed Barack Obama lived here on Capitol Hill. Document and photos to be posted soon.
Reply | Options Unfold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment by Charlette, 7 Jan 2009, 18:16 GMT+11 Fold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment
Charlette 10 Jan 2009, 19:06 GMT+11
Here you go,
Capitol Hill Times has now posted the article and photos.
Barack Obama: From Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill
http://www.capitolhilltimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=26&SubSectionID=248&ArticleID=27447
Reply | Options Unfold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment by Charlette, 10 Jan 2009, 19:06 GMT+11 Fold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment
Charlette 13 Jan 2009, 19:34 GMT+11
To be exact the plot of land was lot 9. It was mentioned by a former resident it was the
second house in from the Mercer Republican corner.
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Reply | Options Unfold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment by Charlette, 13 Jan 2009, 19:34 GMT+11 Fold Re: Ann Dunham’s apartment
Charlette 31 Jan 2009, 19:42 GMT+11
Babysitter of Barack was Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Alaska. She lived right below Ann and Barack.
The name Toutonghi is listed in the city directory as residents of 516 13th Ave E, an address which is
also confirmed by the Univ. of WA as the residence given by Ann Dunham Obama when she registered.
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http://www.seattlechatclub.org/News.html
Excerpt:
Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962. [Note: 9/3/09: I believe Mary’s daughter was older than what she remembered which would account for the age discrepency].
During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham. Anna was obviously confident enough with Mary to have her baby sit her son Barack and confide in her about her future plans. Mary strains to remember the days back over forty five years ago and relates that she did not know why Anna was in Seattle but remembers she was ³anxious to get back to her husband². ³She told me they would be going to Kenya when she finished her education which she had promised her parents when she had married, but because her husband had an obligation to his tribe she realized he would have to take another wife that was a full blooded Kenyan². Mary commented that ³I don¹t think I could have been that brave.²
Mary explained most of the people in the apartment house were Seniors and were retired so it was most likely she was the only one in the house able to baby sit Barack. Mary was a stay at home mother while her husband was taking classes at the nearby Seattle University. She lived directly below Anna and Barack in the level she calls the basement...
PLEASE NOTE:
“She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962.”
IF YOU ADD 18 MONTHS TO JULY 1959, THAT IS JANUARY 1961!!!
Don’t miss this:
“The name Toutonghi is listed in the city directory as residents of 516 13th Ave E, an address which is
also confirmed by the Univ. of WA as the residence given by Ann Dunham Obama when she registered.”
So Charlette and her little helper find ANNA OBAMA in the Polk Directory, tell Mary she baby-sat for Stanley Ann Dunham in January/February 1962, and in the next breath, her name is ANN DUNHAM OBAMA and she was registered at the University of WA.
AND THEN A TRANSCRIPT APPEARS FOR OBAMA, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM SHOWING COMMENCEMENT IN SEP. 1961.
Who is ‘the Jim’? Who is ‘Eric’? What are you talking about here?
It’s akin to stuffing square pegs into round holes and saying - voila! They fit so nicely.
Whilst all the while thinking...those who don't notice the mess we have made, will still vote for us anyway, and those who do notice, won't be able to do a d*mn thing about it anyway.
And no doubt snickering at everyones’ cowardice. They know a lot of people know they’re criminals.
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