WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST

Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 

"No Obama birth certificate exists"

ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us? 

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams

Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."

The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-

Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics. 

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.

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[Las Vegas Ron]

:)

[rolling_stone]

...That’s very nice, but it has nothing to do with the argument that Obama can’t be president because his father wasn’t a US citizen....

ROFLMAO you funny, do you believe your own $%$%#@

[Elderberry]

Here is but one example:

To: Robert Drobot
“Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii,”

Has this been verified to be correct? Is Obama a natural born citizen of the U.S. as required by our Constitution?

In a county of background checks for almost any job, background checks have become a way of life. As anyone seen Obama’s birth certificate and verified it? Would you accept his word he is qualified to be POTUS as defined by our Constitution?

6 posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:21:29 AM by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780530/posts#6

[curiosity]

ROFLMAO you funny, do you believe your own $%$%#@

So you can't respond to my argument, so you just resort to insults. Typical.

[Kenny Bunk]

I take your point about allowing another nation jurisdiction where no other nation belongs.

Perhaps what I should have used is a quote from senator Bingham

all other persons born within the
Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other
sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Barak's Dad, Barak, Sr. definitely owed allegiance to the Crown, thence to Kenya. Helluva problem, this whole thing!

[rxsid]

"Which brings us back to the fundamental importance of Article II, and the question, "Can a dual citizen be a Natural Born Citizen?"

Yes. Doesn't that have to be the rule? Otherwise, we cede control over our own candidates to the laws of other countries.

Look, the eligibility of someone to be President must be based on our laws, not on the laws of another nation. Otherwise, you give other nations a veto power over who can run for President. Suppose Palin wins the nomination, and Iran passes a law declaring her an Iranian citizen. That makes her a dual citizen, and hence....ineligible?

The most you could do is make a so-called "dual citizen" ineligible if, under the citizenship laws of the U.S., that person could also be considered a citizen of another country. But you just can't have a "no dual citizen" law, or other nations will have a field day messing with us.

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A. Iran "making" citizens out of sovereign U.S. citizens would not be recognized internationally. Second, it definitely wouldn't be recognized in the U.S. Furthermore, following your line, the U.S. congress could then turn around and make everyone on the planet a U.S. citizen. Those scenarios are nonsense.

The "Natural Born Citizen" requirement for the Commander in Chief of the armed forces is, in part, a national security measure. No CinC born with multiple allegiances!

[Gondring]

Knowing the lawyers and law firms who are involved, the $2mm estimate for his spending is very low. It looks to me as though we can see around $10mm of legal effort expended in defense of his position--maybe more.

What's that...about $750,000 per page filed?

[Flamenco Lady]

First of all I don’t know of any school that actually has a “civics” class, let alone what textbooks would be used for one. I had U.S. History, World History, and Social Studies classes where we learned about and discussed the constitution, but never a civics class. As I stated before my teachers used the constitution, and related papers for our discussions about the constitution, not textbooks.

Furthermore, none of the textbooks I had for history and Social Studies classes ever addressed the definition of “natural born citizen”. in fact most didn’t even mention the constitution other than just in passing. My own children have never had a “civics” class either, just history and social studies classes where the constitution was discussed. Their textbooks don’t even mention the clause, and one of them doesn’t even mention the Constitution.

You are the one who made the claim that ALL the civics textbooks for the last 100 years say something different, so why don’t you list all the civics textbooks that actually address the “natural born citizenship” clause for us.

I personally don’t have time to do that much research, but if you can provide us with a list I am sure there are others besides me who would be willing to read through some of the books on your list and see exactly what they say with regard to the definition of “natural born citizen”. Perhaps you could just start with a list of one civics textbook published in each of the last 100 years (1910 through 2010).

I usually read one book each evening before I go to bed so even if no one else wants do help with the reading, I could still probably read through all 100 of them in less than a year if I can obtain a copy of each the books. I have a limited budget, so it would be helpful if you could also let me know which libraries have copies of the civics textbooks.

[rolling_stone]

....So you can't respond to my argument, so you just resort to insults. Typical.....

Both subjects were being discussed and you chose to pick one and ignore the other....you are a disruptor..if you had some real facts instead of argument I might respond to it

[wintertime]

That is a simple and direct reason for Obama to refuse - to give the finger to his enemies and say, “n’yah, n’yah - can't make me”.
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Obama will lose this attempt at political dirty trickery and teasing in the court of public opinion.

In the court of public opinion only someone who is guilt and/or a complete and total JERK and sociopath would use common documents as a tool to play joke on their opponents.

Only an unfeeling ass or someone who is guilty would let a decorated officer of 17 years ( and a war veteran) go to prison over proving they are a natural born citizen. In the court of public opinion? GUILTY!

In the court of public opinion only a guilty person or completely unfeeling jerk would waste the time and resources of TAX PAID attorneys at a time when terrorists are plotting to blow up Americans and KILL soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers.

Obama would do the above just so he can go, “n’yah, n’yah - can't make me”? Verdict in the court of public opinion? GUILTY!

[Kenny Bunk]

Can a dual citizen be a Natural Born Citizen?”

No.

While I wholeheartedly agree, as we can see from this thread, many of our fellow citizens are ready to concede eligibility to Barak Hussein Obama.

We must keep fighting to get this to SCOTUS. We need 1 (one) governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off any state ballot. That will force SCOTUS to intervene, with Team Obama as he plaintiffs. Let them claim "no standing," then!!

[Hotlanta Mike]

Can you provide a single example of a civics textbook published within the last 100 years that says a person born in the USA needs two citizen parents to be considered a natural born citizen?

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The last 100 years coincides with the introduction and rise of the PROGRESSIVE movement in America.

[bvw]

The "natural born citizenship" meaning that BOTH parents are citizens was discussed as least as early as the 3rd of July 2008 on Free Republic.

See here: Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh), article posted 7/3/2008, reply 70 by socialismisinsidious reply was less than an hour after the article was posted.

The reply of socialismisinsidious is as follows:

To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Could you try to argue from points of logic rather than emotion?

First, there are numerous lawsuits filed against the U.S. government and/or POTUS on a regular basis. It is the duty of DOJ attorneys to provide a legal defense for the government and/or POTUS in lawsuits filed against either party. So Obama didn’t send out DOJ attorneys by choice and didn’t specifically direct tax dollars to be used to provide his defense.

Secondly, regardless of whether or not we’re at war or being plotted against by terrorists, the DOJ’s function remains the same. It’s not as if the DOJ attorneys who worked on the eligibility lawsuits were taken away from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or from investigating terrorist bomb plots. There are plenty of U.S. attorneys.

Thirdly, Obama is not an honorable man. We’ve already established that point.

[Las Vegas Ron]

This has to be the best threads I’ve ever seen on this issue. Tons of research is revealed on it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts?q=1&;page=1

Enjoy!

[bvw]

For your information. Please update your findings in this matter.

[Red Steel]

The latest from Ulsterman on January 25, 2011

“White House Insider: Proceed At Your Own Peril”

“After repeated attempts to obtain a followup response to our last communication, our D.C. Insider gives little more than a brief warning to back off the many questions surrounding Barack Obama’s birth and citizenship.” ...

http://newsflavor.com/world/usa-canada/white-house-insider-proceed-at-your-own-peril/#ixzz1C7cO666s

Oooooooh, OBambi is going to get us. LoL.

[Electric Graffiti]

“So Obama didn’t send out DOJ attorneys by choice”

BucktoothedKenyan,

Yes he did by not releasing a copy of his long form birth certificate.

[wintertime]

This is NOT NOT NOT about points of law.

Obama will lose this because public pressure will mount. We already see leaks in the dam. Geeze! If Chrisy Matthews wasn't a great big crack then what is? ( eye roll)

Innocent people don't act like Obama. Guilty people do.

**Guilty** people would let a decorated officer and war veteran go to prison. Over what? A birth certificate and few common documents American peasants release routinely?

What innocent, real, natural born, American citizen president would waste and misuse tax paid attorneys at time of terrorist threats and soldiers KILLED on their bases? Huh?

Verdict in the court of public opinion: GUILTY!

[wintertime]

David, please read post #359. I forgot to ping you.