[El Gato]

Official state vital records are sufficient to prove birth in the US before any court of law or government agency.

Unless challenged. You do understand the meaning, both literal and legal, of prima-faciedo you not?

Latin for "at first view."

Evidence that is sufficient to raise a presumption of fact or to establish the fact in question unless rebutted.

But if the prima-facie evidence is never presented in court, it's kinda hard to rebut it. Made even more difficult by the concealment of the underlying documentation.

[curiosity]

Unless challenged. You do understand the meaning, both literal and legal, of prima-faciedo you not?

Yes. The problem is, birthers have no evidence with which to challange it.

If, after two years, birthers haven't been able to produce a shred of evidence that bambi was born outside Hawaii, what makes you think they could produce it now, or any time in the future?

Face it. You've got nothing.

[butterdezillion]

And Hawaii UIPA responses have confirmed that what they have for Obama’s birth claims are not prima facie evidence.

[EnderWiggins]

"Unless challenged."

Not exactly.

Unless challenged with evidence.

Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence, self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.