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To: El Gato
"Unless challenged."

Not exactly.

Unless challenged with evidence.

Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence, self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.
1,751 posted on 02/27/2010 8:30:36 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins; El Gato; All
Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence,
self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith
and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.

BULLSH*T! In order for Obama's "birth certificate" to be accepted as a legal "fact" —
it MUST appear in Court. It NEVER has. It's only appeared on the Internet.

Read it again. In regards to prima facie, the Certification itself says it VERY CLEARLY:

“This copy serves as prima facia evidence

NOT

"This COPY OF A copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

1,761 posted on 02/27/2010 10:24:51 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: EnderWiggins
Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence, self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.

All that only applies if the thing is presented in Court, and if it really has a raised seal and appropriate signature. Since it was only after folks pointed out the lack of a seal that, lo and behold, one appeared, hyper-visible, in the Fart Check photos, we can surely be forgiven for doubting the reality of that raised seal. Not to mention other "irregularities, in the information, such as BHO, the father's race as African, rather than the expected (in 1961) "Negro".

1,810 posted on 02/27/2010 3:06:23 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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