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To: EnderWiggins; El Gato; All
Since there is no evidence with which to challenge it, it remains prima facie evidence,
self authenticated per the Federal Rules of Evidence and enforced by the Full Faith
and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.

BULLSH*T! In order for Obama's "birth certificate" to be accepted as a legal "fact" —
it MUST appear in Court. It NEVER has. It's only appeared on the Internet.

Read it again. In regards to prima facie, the Certification itself says it VERY CLEARLY:

“This copy serves as prima facia evidence

NOT

"This COPY OF A copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

1,761 posted on 02/27/2010 10:24:51 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
In order for Obama's "birth certificate" to be accepted as a legal "fact" — it MUST appear in Court. It NEVER has.

That's because no court has asked to see it yet. But in the event a court asks for it, it will accepted definitive proof of birth in Hawaii unless you have some evidence to challange its veracity, which you do not have.

1,786 posted on 02/27/2010 12:58:27 PM PST by curiosity
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To: BP2
"BULLSH*T! In order for Obama's "birth certificate" to be accepted as a legal "fact" — it MUST appear in Court. It NEVER has. It's only appeared on the Internet."

LOL... BP, you keep mistaking yourself for somebody who is actually important.

I can't believe you have yet to figure out that you will never personally touch a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate. The best you will ever get is an image on the Internet or in a Newspaper, and the testimony of an independent third party that the document is actually real. You've already had that for more than a year.

Even if the COLB eventually is presented in a court room, you will still personally never get aything more than an image and the verification of somebody you either trust or you don't. And let's not pretend that Birthers trust judges any more than they trust FactCheck reporters.

You already have in your possession all the evidence you are ever going to get, and you've made your decision that you don't believe it. Great. But you look silly pretending that you will ever get (or deserve) anything more than you already have.
2,209 posted on 03/01/2010 8:43:02 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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