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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: InspectorSmith
While there might be a real David Jeffrey Bomford in Australia I can tell you one thing for sure and that is that he (Bomford) never had his birth certificate on his family's genealogy website.

Immaterial of course whether he did or he did not. We know from the birth certificate his father was Alaric Bomford, his mother Doreen Loxton (maiden name). In the desperation to discredit the real Bomford certificate and make the fake certificate genuine, persons tried to pick it to pieces.

Research showed that the obituaries for the two persons verified there children including one David Jeffrey Bomford. I was able to see the cemetary records myself.

Then there was dear old Lavender, the registrar who took the Bomford entries of birth. Sure enough he worked in the goverment sector for years.

You simply do not know about Bomford's website. Neither do I.

3,361 posted on 03/07/2010 8:53:49 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
What I'm saying is that none of those involved in the political process worried about eligibility and didn't feel there was any issue regarding the matter.

Doesn't matter, he either is or is not eligible. It's not only up to those involved whether to enforce the requirements, although it would be nice if they'd at least checked, rather than taking a known liar's word for it. Several known liars actually.

If he's not eligible, he's not President.

Like Schrodinger's Cat, the wave function has not yet collapsed.

3,362 posted on 03/07/2010 8:57:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Peter Libra; BP2; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah
Be that as it may, my experience with hoaxers is that they have a cruel streak within them ..

~~~

Yes .. two words: malicious intent

3,363 posted on 03/07/2010 8:57:21 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Natural Born 54
I feel less guilty for being confused now. Looks like "confusion tactics" were being used by a number of players in this strange tale.

You might say that. :)

Thanks for the clarification.


3,364 posted on 03/07/2010 8:59:24 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: Natural Born 54; Peter Libra; KenyanBCPunkster; Seizethecarp

Sure.

Here’s the fake news report from ABC Australia:

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2646009.htm

1. Note that the URL or web address contains “2008”. Wrong year. This article was supposed the be posted on 08.08.2009. “2009”.

2. Search their ABC Australia website. “Bomford” does not match and article that they have ever published. Dig through their archives manually and this article is still not found anywhere.

3. A quote supposedly from Bomford in the ABC article:
“DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It’s little old me and my mum and everything else up there. Oh I definitely confirm that the birth certificate was mine. That was quite easy to see - my address, even the style of the birth certificate was an old South Australian one.”

His is “address” at birth nor any other “address” of his is used on the Orly Taitz supposed “MOSSAD supplied” Obama birth document.


3,365 posted on 03/07/2010 9:01:42 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: Peter Libra

And just how do you do you know what I do and do not know????

Let me tell you that I was all over the Bomford thing when it came out.

Again, how do you know what I do and don’t know???

Take a look at the supposed ABC Australia interview with “BOMFORD”. It’s a FAKE. And it’s the only “interview” with David Bomford. (THAT’s RIGHT, THE ONLY ONE.)


3,366 posted on 03/07/2010 9:06:49 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: Peter Libra; Natural Born 54; KenyanBCPunkster; Seizethecarp

To Peter Libra,

And just how do you do you know what I do and do not know????
Let me tell you that I was all over the Bomford thing when it came out.
Again, how do you know what I do and don’t know???
Take a look at the supposed ABC Australia interview with “BOMFORD”. It’s a FAKE. And it’s the only “interview” with David Bomford. (THAT’s RIGHT, THE ONLY ONE.)


3,367 posted on 03/07/2010 9:08:39 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith
This is Lucas Smith. I don’t want to bother you and if you don’t want to answer a questions that you’ve probably already answered then I will totally understand. But if you feel like answering here is my question:

Sure.

What did you use a template or what template did you base yours on. I have tracked down old Australian birth certifcate (real ones.... not the “Bomford” one). The Australian birth certificate that I tracked down looks extremely similar to the Orly Taitz MOSSAD certificate. So did you use and Australian certificate to model the one that you claim to have made?

Yes. Specifically, I used the Bomford certificate from South Australia.

By the way, Orly Taitz was telling all of us that she got the certificate that you claim to have created from MOSSAD.

That was a complete fabrication on her part.


3,368 posted on 03/07/2010 9:09:38 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: Natural Born 54

That’s not how it happened. Koyaan announced on Politjab that he made the BC. That’s how everyone found out.


3,369 posted on 03/07/2010 9:11:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Natural Born 54
That’s interesting. If I can force myself to go back to the long bc thread and search, I’d like to find out how the topic of the Bomford bc made it to the discussion. It is just too much of a coincidence that someone “found it” doing a Google search when the punkster’s doc showed up. It’s remotely possible but not very.

Why? That's how I found it, just a basic Google image search.


3,370 posted on 03/07/2010 9:13:55 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; Seizethecarp

Be careful how you word your statements about me. I (Lucas Smith) have never “claimed” to have “created” the CPGH 1961 Mombasa certificate of birth. I procured it in Kenya from CPGH.


3,371 posted on 03/07/2010 9:14:08 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: DJ MacWoW
That’s not how it happened. Koyaan announced on Politjab that he made the BC. That’s how everyone found out.

Got a URL for that?


3,372 posted on 03/07/2010 9:16:20 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

To: KenyanBCPunkster.

Sorry about my most recent post where I said that you claimed that I claimed that the 1961 CPGH certificate was created by me (Lucas).

I see now that you were only referencing what I asked you about Orly and her supposed “MOSSAD supplied” document.

It’s getting late and I’m starting to make mistakes in my post here.

Sorry for the misunderstanding and my post in error.


3,373 posted on 03/07/2010 9:20:52 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith
Your comments on knowledge.

Fake or not it does not matter. Merely to play games with this and that does not get down to the nitty gritty. Fake interviews and so on notwithstanding. How about Occam's razor?

DOB Bomford, David Jeffrey. 10th April 1959. Thebarton Community Hospital
Mile End. South Australia.
Informant: Alaric Edgar Bomford. 62 Taylors Rd, Thebarton.

Statement of verification by the Deputy Registrar. Douglas Gordon Young.
11th June 1980.

This on a copy of the long form applied for in 1980. Bomford is a living human being. He lives in Australia. He has a birth certificate.

3,374 posted on 03/07/2010 9:22:04 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

You said you found it after a long search on Google images. That thing surfaced very quickly after your bogus bc. What probably happened is the web site where your “birthers punked” thing appeared also had the Bomford bc demonstrating that it was used to make yours. I am not sure, but that may have been why it was so quick.


3,375 posted on 03/07/2010 9:23:09 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: InspectorSmith
Sorry for the misunderstanding and my post in error.

No problem.


3,376 posted on 03/07/2010 9:23:30 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: Peter Libra
To self.

No, I am not retreating from a bit of give and take.

I is 12:25 am. Bed time. I cannot wait to get my Tim Hortons coffee tommorrow and get right back into to the fray.

3,377 posted on 03/07/2010 9:25:14 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: InspectorSmith

Hmm, rings a bell or two...


3,378 posted on 03/07/2010 9:26:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Natural Born 54
You said you found it after a long search on Google images. That thing surfaced very quickly after your bogus bc. What probably happened is the web site where your “birthers punked” thing appeared also had the Bomford bc demonstrating that it was used to make yours. I am not sure, but that may have been why it was so quick.

No. My Punk'd blog entry wasn't made until after the Bomford certificate had been found and made public.


3,379 posted on 03/07/2010 9:27:12 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

I can probably find it but not tonight. I remember you, er, Koyaan and Politjab because I had never heard of either before. Both were a topic of intense discussion.


3,380 posted on 03/07/2010 9:30:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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