Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
Citizen Wells is an "after-birther?" Really?
How did you pick February 17, 1964 as the date of the final signature?
Look up the thread... questioned and answered. So duh After-Birther script kiddies didn’t check out the original source of the story?
They were tripping this morning when FR was down. They were searching names and claiming the article was being scrubbed. LOL
Fred,
Put two and two together.
We’ve got Hawaii using “political agenda” as a reason to deny the public, public records.
We’ve got the Justice Department referencing a “birther agenda” in their brief on Donofrio’s Chrysler BK appeal.
Seems like it’s the meme of the month.
Fact(less) Check n’ Fight The Smears B/C failed
Screaming racist every second failed
Keeping the MSM off the topic is beginning to fail
So now we have government officials who are refusing to do their jobs or claiming some legal gotcha since anyone who questions Obama has a hidden agenda; even when the case isn’t about Obama or his eligibility!
What will the next excuse be when the “hidden agenda” excuse does not work?
Send out a select number of people onto websites to “claim” they put out fraud b/c’s, edited pictures, made false statements, created questionable evidence etc all to fool the “idiot birthers”?
Or, maybe they’ll just follow their fearless leader and blame Bush
But the person in question must have first met the Article II sec. 1 clause 5 conditions for eligibility for the office.
Yes, and now we have a 'confession' from someone who maintains they produced the forgery on fightthesmears...the next thing we will hear is that factcheck made an honest mistake and zero has found his birth certificate after all...
Which thread?
And you figured that February 17, 1964 would be a great date for your hoax all in an afternoon? That would be impressive, if true.
Nobody spends 3 days on a political forum they are at odds with, answering questions out of the goodness of their heart. So why are you really here?
Are the folks at Citizen Wells "After-Birther script kiddies?"
It doesn't appear that way, according to some of the comments on this over there:
yo // March 7, 2010 at 12:34 pmIt appears that BP2's comment #2824 on this thread is the original source of the story. Is BP2 an Obot?
it has the look of a put up job by obots so they can then try to use it to ridicule. whats new, eh?
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citizenwells // March 7, 2010 at 1:26 pm
There is some kind of story here.
Possibly too many inquiries.
I am guessing that a great number of inquiries late last night
would be a high % of Obots.
I simply want the truth.
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Kiltie // March 7, 2010 at 1:36 pm
If there is any truth to this, Chanise Foxx (or whatever her real name is) needs to make a notarized statement, and appear on Fox News and any other media that will have her NOW. If Chanis is using a pseudonym, this Adler gal still would know her real name, so she is not safe. Larry Sinclair still is breathing in and out because he went hugely public, otherwise I have no doubts he would have disappeared.
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SueK // March 7, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Linda from NY // March 7, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Ya, Linda(r), Im thinking that if there was anything to it, viral wouldnt quite cover it; itd be all over the place.
Dont even know if this is a real person; some Obot playing, I think.
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czekmark // March 7, 2010 at 2:27 pm
This forgery is certainly possible considering the deceit constantly being vented from the White House. However, the truth of it will be extremely hard to verify. If true, the Obambots will be doing emergency damage control to discredit it with help of course from the lamestream media.
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Linda from NY // March 7, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Michelle // March 7, 2010 at 2:29 pm
What an operation! Big time fraud! No wonder people are having problems with identity theft!
Two things are believable from this story; Devorah Adler and Illinois.
Many people want to know the truth about pp. However, that is why the LSM is working OT to discredit birthers.
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ticktock // March 7, 2010 at 2:48 pm
I agree with wells, its the scrubbing thats the story.
Personally, I dont think this was a planted story and scrubbing by the Obots. If it isnt true then its just a loose nutcase who just so happened to raise the ire of the Obots enough to try to get people OFF the whole story. As I see it at the moment.
These kinds of activities dont help, though, to bring the truth to light.
It still bothers me that Free Republic did not post a retraction. Since they are a popular website, many people go there for the daily news so it is highly likely, they would be used to cause a stir or distract from something else that is happening.
It has happened so many times before we have gotten hopeful, only to be let down.
Just saying Linda
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cyber // March 7, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Why would this Chanise Foxx receive death threats for three years since she has been QUIET till just now? Sure she was warned to be quiet at the begining if she was the real deal.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?
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Christinewjc // March 7, 2010 at 4:54 pm
WOW! If this report is genuine and true, we may finally have the smoking gun to take Resident Obama down from the presidency! I will be watching the developing story closely. Any idea why this woman has decided to come forward at this time, despite the death threats she has been receiving for 3 years?
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This one.
Lucas Smith says your document is not the one he obtained in Kenya and brought to Orly. Fred Nerks agrees and he knows as much about all this as anyone here. Can you disprove their statements? I bet someone would even post the real Orly document (the one some of us saved before Orly’s got altered and hacked) next to the one you provided to us here. It might be a useful exercise - if you will participate.
Btw, JimRob knows about it and laughed. Go look for a fight somewhere else.
No, however your buddy in crime is.
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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
And if you continue posting like a troll, Im going to zot you clear into last Tuesday.
JimRob, who hates trolls almost as much as he hates libs.
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Just in case you missed it.
Why? And why would you freely give a troll more info? I wouldn’t. They’re on a fishing expedition. Let em go hungry.
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