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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m pretty new here. What kind of posts should I ping Jim on?


2,841 posted on 03/06/2010 9:25:14 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
It is FR etiquette to ping people if they are mentioned in a post.

If I post and say "Butter said" or "See Butters Post 000" I should ping you.

2,842 posted on 03/06/2010 9:28:17 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson

Okay. I managed to pick that up. But I guess I didn’t follow it when I forgot to ping Jim for asking if I should ping him. lol. I’ll do it this time though.

And as long as I’ve got Jim’s attention - Jim, thank you for hosting this place. It is a wonderful service that works well and serves a vital purpose. The features are excellent. What you’re doing is greatly appreciated.


2,843 posted on 03/06/2010 9:34:29 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Las Vegas Ron
That description was taken from a we site to illustrate that converting files is indeed optimizing photos.

The poster that I sent that to said that optimizing and file conversion were not the same.

I don't think it is the same. It could be, but not necessarily. Optimizing would be a conversion, but conversion of a file could be many things, optimizing being just one of them.

Please post a link, I'd like to take a look at the source of the info.

Thanks

2,844 posted on 03/06/2010 9:52:42 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
Picture optimization is simply removing redundant pixels or removing the amount of them. You can do it by reducing the size of the image or use a program that will change toe format. In this instance we were discussing optimizing a tiff file.

The only ways to do it are to adjust the image size or convert it to a different format. .jpg's are to pictures as mp3's are to music, they are compressed files. Both formats are simply compressed, optimized file with minimal quality loss. That is way it is "optimal"

This was my source link, there are thousands of them out there.

http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/optimisation/imageoptimisation.htmlhttp://www.yourhtmlsource.com/optimisation/imageoptimisation.html

Or go to htmlgoodies.com, there is everything you could ask to learn there.

2,845 posted on 03/06/2010 10:06:20 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: butterdezillion; parsifal; Jim Robinson
But I guess I didn’t follow it when I forgot to ping Jim for asking if I should ping him.

This conversation started on another thread. This is the background:

Parsy posted this : The ones here on FR have caught holy heck from me, from you, from lots of other freepers and as a group, they have yet to break. And And, most of the birthers, outside of FR, aren’t getting the kind of flack we dish out here, so there’s even less chance of them just dissolving.

I took umbrage to that here ;You are a foolish man when it has been shown to you that the owner of this site, Jim Robinson, also believes Bam is ineligible. and pinged Jim Rob.

Parsy flipped out starting here ; And one more time you run off to “go tell” somebody. So I tell you what. Don’t post to me again until and unless you become man enough, or should I say Freeper enough, to take care of yourself in an argument.

If you have to “run go tell” all the time, maybe you should like become apply for a hall monitor job, in some junior high school..

So that is the history behind this conversation. I wasn't using etiquette according to parsy, I was crying for help. LOL

2,846 posted on 03/06/2010 10:07:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

lol. Maybe he’s afraid of being zotted.

Looking at your posts, seems to me you’re able to hold your own quite nicely without calling anybody for help. If not just for etiquette, maybe you should ping people so they can come watch you do clean-up in Aisle 10. lol.


2,847 posted on 03/06/2010 10:17:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I did get some “LOL” freepmails. :-)


2,848 posted on 03/06/2010 10:21:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are a “Twink.” If you notice, my response was basically, “Are you still a “Twink”, or have you left “Twinkiness” behind you? As a freeper, and a Christian, I always pray for prodigals to return.

Should you continue to post to me, after I have repeatedly informed you that I consider your constant running off the mods and JR as “un-manly”, “whiny”, “sissified” and frankly, “disgusting”, I can only hope that it means you have finally grown a set and no longer need “mommy” to come chase off the “big kids” who have frightened you so.

I watched your utterly shameless and pathetic exchange with dallassun(?) yesterday, and it is obvious you are a very disturbed individual. You seek fights, and yet, when you get them, it is off to the mods for you and the other members of your coven.

Psychologically speaking, I think you are setting up situations where you can feel threatened, so that you can obtain the resultant relief from a more powerful protector. It is a kind of “Munchausen by Proxy” thing. Having known one or two of these people, it is deep, and probably not amenable to therapy in light doses.

In over 11 years at FR, I have NEVER run off to a mod to whine about another freeper, yet I notice that nearly all of your particular coven do so on a regular basis. You get into a thread, call people names and insult them because they do not agree with you. It goes beyond sarcasm or cleverness. Calling someone a “troll”, an “obot”, a “socialist” —that isn’t mere witticism. It is why many people avoid the birther threads altogether. They do not want to contend with your adolescent nastiness.

Then, after p*ssing them off, you guys start hitting the “mod” button, like pod people who have discovered a rogue human-being in your midst.

It was my opinion, from this behavior, and from the screen names of the coven, that perhaps your group consisted of a “Papa Bear” or two, and a bunch of shared “Twinks.” Now I am beginning to suspect that you are all members of a “group therapy” group, for some un-named mental disorder.

I do not say this to hurt your feelings. I hope and pray that you consider it a slap in the face from someone who wished to snap you out of it.

So, don’t post to me again, until you have grown up.

parsy


2,849 posted on 03/06/2010 10:23:49 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
LOL!!!

parsy who still doesn't get it!

2,850 posted on 03/06/2010 10:24:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Thanks.

None of what I read supports your assertion that file conversion and optimization are the same thing.

To optimize a file, it would have to be converted, but just converting a file wouldn't necessarily optimize it.

2,851 posted on 03/06/2010 10:30:30 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: parsifal; DJ MacWoW
that isn’t mere witticism. It is why many people avoid the birther threads altogether.

Percy, you got bells the size of church balls to say that. All you do is show up and disrupt, ridicule and hijack the topic on BC threads.

Now you got the bells to try and play the victim?

Talk about being a "twink"

2,852 posted on 03/06/2010 10:31:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: lucysmom
None of what I read supports your assertion that file conversion and optimization are the same thing.

Then you have a comprehension problem.

Go study it yourself, I'm not here to be your graphics instructor.

2,853 posted on 03/06/2010 10:33:28 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; parsifal
I think it's hysterical. He thinks he's such a good investigator but misses the obvious! How does someone that clueless think they are brilliant?

Post 444

unless you become man enough,

My response zipped right by him..

And again in Post 2849

I consider your constant running off the mods and JR as “un-manly”, “whiny”, “sissified” and frankly, “disgusting”,

2,854 posted on 03/06/2010 10:45:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Go study it yourself, I'm not here to be your graphics instructor.

On that we agree. Its clear, even to me that you don't have the background to be that.

2,855 posted on 03/06/2010 10:50:49 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: DJ MacWoW; parsifal
I don't think these people even read, they already have it made up in their mind what their responses are.

At first I assumed you were male because of the Mac in your screen name but then I saw a post where you mentioned that you like to sew.....I certainly didn't figure you were Rosey Greer, so the only other conclusion was.......percy, are you listening boy?

...You must be a lady ;)

2,856 posted on 03/06/2010 10:58:12 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; parsifal
A simple click on my profile would have answered him. I do check bios. It was how I made a best friend on here. She was from Ohio, I was born there.

My kids constantly tell me that I don't sound "like a girl" online.

2,857 posted on 03/06/2010 11:05:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: parsifal; All

It’s REALITY you guys been stabbing at.

It's your sense of reality & logic that is stabbing at you Parsy,
particularly in your frontal lobe.

Again, what's your rationale for TRUSTING these people?



With THIS document?


2,858 posted on 03/06/2010 11:18:44 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ridiculing what is ridiculous is wrong, why??? And you can tell DJ, whom I am not speaking to until she “womans up”, that I never checked her profile, because I don’t care “who” someone is. Their argument makes sense, or it don’t. I don’t go prying into their background. Its irrelevant to me.

That is the point of all that logical fallacy stuff. The “ad hominem” argument thingy. If Ted Kennedy, who I could not stand, said, “Gee, there’s this COLB and the birth announcements” -—it isn’t any less true. If Weasel Waxman said it, it would still make sense.

If Paul “Puke” Begala said it. Same deal. And even one of my all time least favorite shills “Sidney Blumenthal” said it, it would not matter, if it were either true, or made sense.

And, most birther threads? I stay off of them. Too depressing sometimes watching what passes for birther logic. There’s one or tow right now where it is sheer stark-raving nuts. I can’t believe you guys (and gals) are falling for some of the poop you’re falling for on these two threads. I truly suspect that one of the threads was started by someone from DU just to upload and laugh at you.

Other times, though, you guys camper around in a zany fashion and the insanity is fun.

Now was that a bad thing for me to say? Probably. But I didn’t insult you personally. I didn’t call you names. It was sarcastic, true. But I didn’t go look you up to personalize it. I didn’t run go tell JR or the mods.

And while we’re on JR. Believe it or not me and several other freepers actually sat down and had lunch with him once. I don’t know whether he remembers me or not. He meets a lot of people. I thanked him for not kicking me off after becoming a democrat and for my progressiver views on economics. As I recall, he said he understood and that many southern democrats were like that. Conservative on most things, but haters of big business, and Wall Street stuff. Hey, that’s me.

And one very hurtful thing you guys said, that really p*ssed me off—was calling me a “Libertarian”—That’s sinking pretty low in my book.

parsy


2,859 posted on 03/06/2010 11:31:42 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: little jeremiah

LOL!!!!


2,860 posted on 03/06/2010 11:35:14 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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