DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.

[Darksheare]

Tifs are flawed images that are easily exploited to run malicious code.
Your story on how you ‘met’ your ‘source’ smells of BS.
It is so unlikely and coincidental that the odds are better for a 747 to self assemble from an explosion in an AIRBUS plant.

[DJ MacWoW]

Obfuscate, misdirect, dodge....they are trolls.

[DJ MacWoW]

and therefore can only have come from the originator.

The one who didn't know who E F Lavender was.

[Darksheare]

Ender and his echo won’t go away, unfortunately.
He’s one of the Ayers/Soros marching mind numbed masses shuffling along chanting “Che.. Che... Che.. Che..”
We’ll have to wait until he finally gets the high voltage amnesia ray.

[Las Vegas Ron]

The whole point of using the original TIF file was to put out an image of a level of quality that has not been made public before.

Post the .jpg first, if it requires further scrutiny we'll let you know.

You can save it as a high quality .jpg but I suppose you knew already that?

[Fred Nerks]

Yep, waste of time. See you elsewhere...we had this sorted a long time ago, now let them squirm. The Kenya birth terrifies them, doesn’t it?

[DJ MacWoW]

If we ignore him he might go away.

If we wait we might see a Zot! :-)

[Darksheare]

Yeah, I know.

[Natural Born 54]

Yes, it really is obvious and that’s a dead giveaway. Not very smart, actually.

[DJ MacWoW]

Yes it does. Isn’t it SUCH a coinkydink that they met on a forum. My my such a small world!

[Natural Born 54]

There’s an easy way for them to disprove what you say. Let’s have a link to that other forum site so we can see the posts where they met and view the date and times on them.

[DJ MacWoW]

Yup. They tried. And tried. And tried. lol

[Las Vegas Ron]

LOL... and yet, no one has addressed the simple fact that the TIF posted is the single highest quality image of Orly’s BC that has ever been posted on-line, and therefore can only have come from the originator.

That's because you are not trusted, no one here is going to download a tiff from you.

Post an optimized high quality jpg or go away, it's as simple as that.

[DJ MacWoW]

There’s an easy way for them to disprove what you say. Let’s have a link to that other forum site so we can see the posts where they met and view the date and times on them.

Hey Wiggy. How about it? What forum did you meet on? Oh that's right. He saw your posts and PM'ed you. No public conversation. Hmmm.

[Darksheare]

Good luck getting that one out of them.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Yes it does. Isn’t it SUCH a coinkydink that they met on a forum. My my such a small world!

And here they are, together again on FR....isn't being in troll grand?

I don't know about you but I just got a warm, fuzzy feeling inside ;)

[KenyanBCPunkster]

He was asked a very astute question, to which a simple YES or NO answer would be most revealing:

I am the person who created the hoax Kenyan birth certificate and will be happy to answer any questions about it.

You mean the E.F. Lavender document...

I'm sitting here waiting for a reply

Sorry for the confusion, but I thought it was already self-evident what document was being discussed at the time I first posted. The way the "question" was put as a statement made it appear that there was something else behind the "E.F. Lavender" name beside asking what document I was referring to.

Don't know why you couldn't have simply said "What I mean is, are you referring to the document with E.F. Lavender on it?" instead of going on and on about not having answered a question that was never clearly asked.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

The preface “You mean” signals a question.

Not always it doesn't.

"Sacramento is the capital of Connecticut."
"You mean California."

[DJ MacWoW]

Anyone pulling a hoax like that would not visit a conservative forum to crow about it.

Would one of us go to Kos or DU? Heck no!

[Darksheare]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2457491/posts?page=2491#2491

The troll claims he met the other troll on another forum via private message.
No way to prove or trace it, no link to show to prove it.