Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
That’s an absurd comparison. Knowing the name of the judge with whom I spoke doesn’t prove or disprove my statement. You can prove or disprove it on your own. You don’t require his name. You just want to imply that I made up an expert opinion and attributed it to a phantom judge. Who I asked is irrelevant. The facts exist apart from who confirmed them for me.
A defendant who doesn’t provide a defense is subject to a default judgment.
Just ask Orly. She’s famous for claiming default judgments and shouting that she can have Obama out of office in 30 days.
Y’all ain’t got nothin’ when you resort to things like this.
fake but accurate?
now where have we heard THAT before?
It’s not fake. It is accurate. A defendant who refuses to provide a defense is subject to a default judgment. Look it up, genius.
You offered unprovable anecdotal information. Was it an attorney? A judge? It’s useless. And you know it. If someone does that to you, you call them on it also.
Chamber pot. Pffft! It was a Thunder Mug!
;^)
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"The fundamental laws of China have remained practically unchanged since the second century before Christ. The statutes have from time to time undergone modifications, but there does not seem to be any English or French translation of the Chinese Penal Code later than that by Staunton published in 1810. That code provided:
All persons renouncing their country and allegiance, or devising the means thereof, shall be beheaded, and in the punishment of this offence, no distinction shall be made between principals and accessories. The property of all such criminals shall be confiscated, and their wives and children distributed as slave to the great officers of State. . . . The parents, grandparents, brothers and grandchildren of such criminals, whether habitually living with them under the same roof or not, shall be perpetually banished to the distance of 2000 lee.
All those who purposely conceal and connive at the perpetration of this crime shall be strangled. Those who inform against, and bring to justice, criminals of this description shall be rewarded with the whole of their property.
Those who are privy to the perpetration of this crime, and yet omit to give any notice or information thereof to the magistrates, shall be punished with 100 blows and banished perpetually to the distance of 3000 lee.
If the crime is contrived, but not executed, the principal shall be strangled, and all the accessories shall, each of them, be punished with 100 blows, and perpetual banishment to the distance of 3000 lee. . . .
Staunton's Penal Code of China 272, § 255."
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I was warning people about bp2 and his alleged “legal analyses.” There is much similarity between dumping poo on unsuspecting passers-by and dumping real bad legal analyses on unsuspecting freepers.
patsu, who likes “Thunder Mug”
All that does is prove you made a CLAIM...and you cannot reveal the source because what? Your mother might lose her job? How old are you?
Hey, who-ever gave you the instructions to post that stupid 'e-mail' did you no favours, makes you sound like a schoolboy.
Stop giving legal statutes and cases to bp2! He gets himself all confused and then he confuses you guys. I am working with him, but he is being stubborn. He is trying to figure out what I am talking about and when he can’t he will come back and ask for help. He hasn’t learned yet that nobody knows everything.
parsy, who used to, but forgot a lot of it....
I was only commenting on the delicate term “chamber pot” when in the middle of the night it’s actually a THUNDER mug. :-)
Parsy, It’s really okay. Again, we accept your surrender and your scalp. If you need a reminder of your trouncing, just start back around post 500 and re-live the EPIC FAIL for yourself. Your After-Birther friends have all left you likely because of idiocy by association. I’ve invited all the regulars from your Ping List ... numerous times today. Most don't come by, only a handful even try before they quit. They’re the smart ones. You get points for perseverance, but lose them ALL for utter stupidity. Parsley ... it’s Friday night. Push away from the monitor and have some fun. Obama still has his stash. Borrow a few bucks and blow it like only a Liberal can. Perhaps you should call up an old girlfriend ... but consider calling ahead for a dark booth at the restaurant when you two meet up.
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I know. I like the term.
parsy, who admits his first thought was Helen Thomas
And I give this document the same 'a one chance in 42.3518 tetraquadrillion to the power 84' that it's authentic.
Now you can defent your forgery and I can defend mine.
Like knowing the name of the attorney - oops - judge - would bet tantamount to revealing *uckeye’s mother’s name, phone number and address...
Wrong end. Butt alike.
Vital records only preserve activity associated with actual vital events, in my understanding. The HI marriage vital record index that DOH released with Obama Sr. and Dunham as the groom and bride would only be for the vital event of a legally completed marriage, not just an application. That record was stated to be a marriage record by DOH.
I know, You need time to re-read Wong a few times. I have fun. I keep my guitars by the chair and the TV on. And I have music videos on the laptop. I stay busy in a small way.
parsy, who is learning beyond here lies nothing
One has to be a lawyer to be a federal judge. So the answer is “both.”
lawyer (noun)
- a person who has been trained in the law, esp. one whose profession is advising others in matters of law
judge (noun)
- an elected or appointed public official with authority to hear and decide cases in a court of law
anecdote (noun)
- Obsolete little-known, entertaining facts of history or biography; a short, entertaining account of some happening.
No, I offered the opinion of a legal professional with whom I spoke. Whether or not I can prove I spoke with him is irrelevant. The statement “A defendant who refuses to provide a defense is subject to a default judgment” is provable and not anecdotal evidence.
I’m not arguing that point with you any further. It’s a distraction from the facts under discussion.
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