Posted on 08/06/2009 11:14:41 AM PDT by poetbdk
Does the Confederate Flag offend you? http://www.sodahead.com/question/537677/does-the-confederate-flag-offend-you/ I came across this question asked at SodaHead.com that has produced a lively discussion with over 2500 comments. I thought I would post it here at Free Republic and see if it gets a similiar response.
You quote "The South Was Right" and "Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War" and you accuse others of relying on propaganda? ROTFLMAO!
One of the most vocal proponents of Yankee secession was Senator Timothy Pickering of MA, Postmaster General and Secretary of State.
You said states, not individuals. The fact of the matter is that secession was never seriously discussed in New England in 1803, 1814, or any other time.
There is no benefit to the people who owned no slaves; they worked the land themselves
What passes for your logic has flaws of its own. The shopkeeper, the teacher, the local craftsmen did not benefit from dealing with slave owners even if they did not own them?
Out of a population of 6 million, 336,000 families owned ANY slaves.
You compare slave holders with total population, try comparing slaveholders with total families since virtually all slave holders had families. In Mississippi there were 31000 slaveholders and 63000 families. That would seem to indicate that almost half of all families held slaves. In Georgia it was 38%. In Alabama it was over a third. Slave ownership was far more prevalent than you pretend.
The ship you mention was thought to be Dutch, but that cannot be ascertained. The year was 1620; the place was Jamestown, VA. In 1637, the ship Desire was launched in MA and designed for the slave trade.
Well if you really want to be specific the first African slaves were probably landed in what is now South Carolina by Spaniards in 1526.
Not a myth - American Heritage, vol 441 “Selling Poor Steven” tells of the first slave owner in Virginia, one Anthony Johnson of Northampton, VA, who was black and his African slave, John Casor.
Here's one better than that. Virginia Magazine of History and Biography (January 1898), vol. 5, no. 3, p. 236 identifies a 1640 court case "Whereas Hugh Gwyn hath . . . brought back from Maryland three servants formerly run away . . . the court doth . . . order [that] the first serve out their times with their master according to their indentures, . . . and that [the] third being a negro named John Punch shall serve his said master or his assigns for the time of his natural life here or elsewhere." Generally agreed to be first instance of slavery, and Hugh Gwyn was white.
Not at all. It is a part of our history. I am offended by people who are offended by it.
Doesn't offend me, though I am amused by some of the folks who fly it (ie the neoconfederates).
I’ve always loved those lyrics—never thought I would live to see a time in America when I would seriously speak them to my own child.
It’s a part of history and the issues it might have represented were mostly settled in 1865 so get over it. Those who most often claim to be offended are democrats whose party is the party of slavery, secession and the KKK and many of whom went with the party of slavery when it started promising them bread and games when the democrat party figured out that dogs, firehoses and white robes and hoods would not keep them from voting. The democrat party is still the party of slavery...and stupid.
No, the War of Southern Arrogance and Stupidity.
No, The Virginia Battle Flag Does not offend me at all.
However, like you, I am extremely offended by images of Che Guevera. Especially since I live in S. Florida, and know many Cuban people who have suffered terribly under the Castro regime. I often get into heated discussions with people who wear those “trendy” T-shirts.
I ask them if they would wear a Hitler or Stalin T-Shirt?
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