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To: boxerblues
Looks to be more real than what Zero put online

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Let's see what happens when document experts----pro-Obama experts, neutral experts, and anti-Obama experts---apply their technical skills to this document the way they applied their skills to the Obama Hawaii short form birth certificate that Obama displayed on his website.

The results should be most interesting.

If it turns out that the document is a fake, it looks like a pretty good fake to me.

The next few weeks could be most interesting as more and more people examine this Kenyan birth certificate.

In addition, this document could force Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard records and his Hawaii high school records.

121 posted on 08/02/2009 2:33:48 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse

I am a year older than Obama (although born in the U.S, myself).

If that’s a fake, it’s one heck of a fake. I have both a Certificate of Live Birth (with the weight, Dr. etc) and the Certification of Live Birth (which looks like the document Obama has presented).

Damn. I’m gonna see if I have any wine in this house. LOL


128 posted on 08/02/2009 2:37:02 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: john mirse

In addition, this document could force Obama to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard records and his Hawaii high school records.
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you have a point there. It may shift the burden of proof to him. If the document is deemed to be real, I think it will force him to prove otherwise.


139 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:07 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: john mirse
Let's see what happens when document experts----pro-Obama experts, neutral experts, and anti-Obama experts---apply their technical skills to this document the way they applied their skills to the Obama Hawaii short form birth certificate that Obama displayed on his website.

What actual "experts" ever examined Obama's alleged COLB?

I'll admit to missing a thread here and there on this issue, but it seems that that information would have stuck out in the conversations, since.

As far as I know, FactCheck.org were the only people who were allowed to look at the alleged paper copy of Obama's COLB, and they're not expert document examiners by any stretch.

142 posted on 08/02/2009 2:41:46 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: john mirse

Coupla things:

Is there a Joshua Simon Oduya who worked for the Kenyan Dept of Vital Stats in 1964?
Is there an E. F. Lavender who was the hospital registrar at Coast General Hospital in 1961?
Do the sequence numbers of the page and volume records of the original match those that would represent a birth on Aug 4th, 1961?

A hit on ANY of these items would be strong corroborating evidence. A hit on more than one, or possibly all three, seems to me to make it almost a certainty.

Remember, the only documents we have seen from Hawaii make no mention at all of what hospital, name of the registrar or attending physician, nothing. Just that he was born on Aug 4th, 1961


145 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:19 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: john mirse

There’s some kind of brownish smudge on it.

It looks like an authentic cigarette ash burn, right by what I think says “Maiden Surname”.


148 posted on 08/02/2009 2:43:05 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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