Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
I used the word hospital, but as even you must note, the base had a ‘clinic’ repeatedly updraged over the deacdes and quite capable of treating even surgical needs. Play gotcha with someone else, old FRiend.
LOL. Answering barackobama.com’s call to rally the troops, I see. He does needs all he can get, as it seems he's having a HARD time motivating his base.
Come on ... no law degree is necessary for this ... use your imagination ... put yourself back to early-1964, and pretend you're Judge King in the courtroom:
— three-year-old Obama JR wasn't probably present in the court room of the CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, now defunct. Ann Dunman, his mother, may have shown a picture to the judge. Or Obama JR may have been present, and the judge saw the child — who knows?
— the man who Ann claimed was the father, Obama SR, wasn't a participating father. The likelihood of him flying nearly 5,000 miles to Hawaii to protest the divorce, or ask for custody, was surely seen as very remote. Sure enough, he didn't even respond to the notification back in Boston — a no-show.
— Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist, but it's not even searchable on Hawaiian document databases. The judge may not have asked to see that anyway — which is not necessary per se to award custody. Blood is thicker than water, anyway ... but someone has to get custody of the child, biologically-proven parents, relatives or the state of Hawaii ...
— there's no DNA testing in the 1960s.
— child smuggling DID take place in the 60s, as did child abduction.
And here's Ann, a lily-white 21-year-old woman from Kansas, asking for custody of a “mulatto” mixed-race baby that she claims to be hers. To put it in context: Black people only made up 0.8 percent of the Hawaiian population in 1960 and 1970. It's not racist to point this out — it's fact from the US Census and a reality of that racially-charged era — it would have been noticed.
So Judge King was likely curious, if not suspicious — most responsible judges, looking past the sobbing wife and her pin-stripped attorney, would be pondering "what's really going on here? Her husband is pursuing a doctorate in economics at Harvard, and yet she wants no child support or alimony ... hmmm."
He's not going to deny her a divorce as she claims "grievous mental suffering." BUT how's Judge King going to award custody — off of Ann's good word? I don't think so ... he'd turn to prima facie. I can hear his words now:
“I'm going to ask for the mother to provide a copy of the birth certificate at our next hearing in March (1964). So ordered.”Here’s the HAWAI‘I FAMILY COURT RULES for some reference on this:
And keep in mind that Hawaiian law in the 1960s, especially in this old Circuit Court that dates back to when Hawaii had a King, didn't have such firm laws in place as we have today.
Everything wasn't codified as it is today. Judges had more discretion in those years shortly after statehood — and Judge King, who went on to be a Senior Judge at the US District Court in District of Hawaii — would have been irresponsible to NOT have exercised that discretion in such a situation.
Please take your "You people are grasping at straws" rhetoric elsewhere. If you weren't truly concerned about Mr. Obama's NBC status, you wouldn't be wasting your time conversing with people labeled by the Left as "crazy conspiracy nuts". LOL
Sorry about the formatting. Don’t know why it came out that way, with double spacing.
If he has webbed digits, he’s a frog?
There is also a statement in the early version of the video interview which got removed at some point which indicates that the baby is the wrong color to be three weeks old at the time of the visit.
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What is that from ???
The photo of Obama as a baby lying on his tum with his head up ???
He would have to be about 3 months old at least in that pic
3 WEEK old babies dont usually do that...
Oh, silly me...
Obama is not usual....
He was born walking andf talking and organized his Kenyan community before he got his first diaper...
Never mind...
“My feeling is his opinions are owned 100% by him and he expresses them even in opposition to the rest of a round table but does so with certitude and conviction.”
Yes, That is my opinion too.
What a wonderful person.
“What’s up with your handle? I get the Gatún part but not the rest.”
My handle has been going loopy/crazy for over a year. At that time I mentioned it to a monitor for help, but nothing. Could it be on this end? Maybe it is a Panamanian thing.
Had to make that dump twice? ... Forget to wipe yourself after the first dump, n00b?
And yes, sometimes one would use the terms interchangeably.
They aren't quite...
In any event, the McCain BC says he was born in Colón, not on Coco Solo Naval base. Why would anyone forge a document to prove their ineligibility to be president???
Applause!
While reading, the thought came to me: Could they have been married in Kenya? There would be no record in HI of that marriage.
Yeah but they're fun to watch.
Cymraeg:
What is the purpose of your handle anyway?
It is obviously an anagram:
C My Rage (Cymraeg).
CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer?
What does that mean?
I think Vendome is curious as to why you self-selected that particular handle.
Now that you mention it, so am I...
LOL!!!!
Wrong. We simply want the Constitution of the United States to be followed. To date, you and your masters have provided no believable evidence that this is being done.
Your lying attempts at the intimidation of millions of Americans who simply want the truth, are duly noted.
I hope you will note that we are not intimidated.
You Birthers are a disgrace to America.
No, in fact, the disgrace lies upon the political and legal elites who strain at legal gnats while trying to force lawless camels down the throats of the American people. You have made the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, of no effect.
With the Constitution ignored, the only thing standing between us and despotism is the informed orneriness of We the People.
Somewhere on this great, long thread there is a discussion about an interview of Ann Obama’s BABYSITTER that she used n Seattle when she was in school. Does anyone remember where that was? I’d like to make a note of its location because I’ve not seen it elsewhere.
” Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist,”
Even Barack Obama concedes that his parents may not have been married.
” Dreams From My Father “ by Barack Obama.
Page 22
“How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky ,a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore.”
“ There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake , a ring, a giving away of the bride .”
“ No families in attendance ,
it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were fully informed.”
But, after writing the above-
Obama says that it was just a
“ small civil ceremony with a Justice of the Peace.”
Obama writes that there’s no record of a real wedding, details are murky, even as to the date,
no families were notified or attended,
apparently not even the Dunhams and yet, he makes the leap that it was a small
civil ceremony with a JP.
Which should have left a record.
And why wasn’t there a notice in the newspaper ,
which is apparently the new standard for evidence ?
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