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Pitts: About the Confederate battle flag, remember this: Nazis have a heritage, too
The Salt Lake City Tribune ^ | 3 March 2008 | Leonard Pitts

Posted on 03/03/2008 10:37:49 AM PST by Rebeleye

They will tell you the Civil War was not about slavery. Remind them that the president and vice president of the so-called "Confederate States of America" both said it was. They will tell you that great-great grandpa Zeke fought for the South, and he never owned any slaves. Remind them that it is political leaders - not grunts - who decide whether and why a war is waged. They will tell you the flag just celebrates heritage. Remind them that "heritage" is not a synonym for "good." After all, Nazis have a heritage, too.

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To: dinoparty

That reminds me of the abortion issue -

“I’m morally opposed to slavery, but I wouldn’t force my morals on anyone else.”


181 posted on 03/03/2008 12:15:21 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Rebeleye
"Remind them that "heritage" is not a synonym for "good." After all, Nazis have a heritage, too."

Idiocy can't tell the difference between a political movemeent(and a short one at that) and a culture that took hundreds of years to from and continyues today.



And by the way, the Nazis highjacked German culture for their own insideous uses.

Anyone for banning Beer Gardens? Any one?
182 posted on 03/03/2008 12:16:25 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: mngran2

In this case, actually, yes. I’m not happy about what it took to knock some sense into us—a war, twelve years of crippling Reconstruction, and then everything that happened in the 1950s and beyond. Maybe, given time, Jim Crow would’ve ended on its own. I’d like to think so.

}:-)4


183 posted on 03/03/2008 12:16:41 PM PST by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

After the war of southern treason (civil war), the Democrats formed the KKK and lynched blacks as well as anyone else that tried to vote Republican.


184 posted on 03/03/2008 12:16:47 PM PST by DFG
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To: drierice
I wonder when, exactly, Lee had an opportunity to speak out against Slavery. Prior to the War, Lee was a senior serving officer in the US Army, and that would have put limits on what he could say about a LEGAL practice.

During the War he was obligated to win the war for the Confederacy. Any public statements that he made would have been counterproductive in that task even if they only took away time from his primary task.

185 posted on 03/03/2008 12:18:55 PM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Not as much so as that statement.”

What the hell kind of argument is THAT? Care to give your reasons?


186 posted on 03/03/2008 12:19:08 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Tallguy

I think the burden of proof is on those who claim that Lee was morally opposed to slavery.


187 posted on 03/03/2008 12:20:15 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: r9etb
Time for you to take a deep breath

Stop me when I say something that isn't true.

ML/NJ

188 posted on 03/03/2008 12:20:29 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: dinoparty
I think the burden of proof is on those who claim that Lee was morally opposed to slavery.

Fair enough...

189 posted on 03/03/2008 12:23:01 PM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Locomotive Breath
And flogging was a common punishment for theft too in many states.
190 posted on 03/03/2008 12:23:28 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Racehorse
"And finally - Texas, not to be outdone, wrote its own declaration."

Texas should have simply renounced the 1845 Treaty and reclaimed its status as a Republic.

Should have, but Texas weren't interested in becoming a sovereign republic again. They just wanted to be part of a nation that allowed them to have slaves.

191 posted on 03/03/2008 12:24:34 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Emperor Palpatine; LauraleeBraswell

‘The South is still an agrarian society. The whole life there is based on growing seasons, which you just can’t rush.’

No industry or life outside of NYC? EP=LLB? You need to get out more.


192 posted on 03/03/2008 12:24:48 PM PST by xone
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Aggressive invaders?

Who fired the first shots on Fort Sumter?????????

Which part of Yankkeeland is Fort Sumter in????????????

193 posted on 03/03/2008 12:26:44 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Smart burglars would be lining up up at the unemployment offices.)
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To: xone

The integrated circuit was invented in Dallas Texas. No integrated circuit, no computer.


194 posted on 03/03/2008 12:29:59 PM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: dinoparty
Grant wasn’t a great General. But he knew how to win a battle by throwing countless men and machinery into a meat grinder until it was clogged and overwhelmed. Which is what helped won the war.

His companion in arms knew how to fight defenseless women ,children and old men

195 posted on 03/03/2008 12:30:42 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Racehorse
How?

When he called up the troops to settle the Whiskey Rebellion.

196 posted on 03/03/2008 12:32:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: ml/nj

you don’t think chattel slavery robbed people of their humanity? what about the slave trade? selling children in public markets?


197 posted on 03/03/2008 12:32:52 PM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: Moose4

Wow, commendable! You are the very first Southerner I have ever heard say that (and I lived in the South for eight years). I wish the rest of the country hadn’t had to invest all the lives, time, money and effort in straightening the South out either, but to the extent things are in order down there now, I’m glad it has done some good. Thanks for your comment.


198 posted on 03/03/2008 12:34:12 PM PST by mngran2
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To: silentreignofheroes

they did not have photography while the slave trade was still operating. That ended when Jefferson was President.


199 posted on 03/03/2008 12:34:23 PM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: pcottraux
It is worth mentioning that Robert E. Lee was morally opposed to slavery...

His opposition to slavery has been badly exaggerated.

200 posted on 03/03/2008 12:36:22 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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