Posted on 04/20/2007 11:50:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
I've never posted a straight Vanity before.
But I am sick and tired of this good conservative, generally religious site being overrun by people posting "I'd hit it", whenever a picture of a good-looking girl is displayed.
It's demeaning, it's immoral, and I guess I'm just a prude but announcing to the world that you'd like to have sex with a woman based on her picture, like she was some object, hardly seems like the appropriate attitude on a conservative political site.
But rather than post in response to any particular person, I figured I'd just vent here where everybody could see and make fun of me.
So go ahead. I thank you for whatever indulgence you have given me in this rant.
Back to your regularly scheduled oggling and hitting.
What is the "right" path?
I seek to earn my way, and have a proper title to things I earn or trade for.
Why?
When I'm driving, I move over when a faster car is behind me, because I wish others would do the same for me. In some sense it is selfish, because I do it to gain. In another sense it is stupid because the chances that the person behind me will remember this and do the same later for me is miniscule.
Once in a great while, when I am in a particular rush, I change my driving style, into something akin to what I normally criticize. I do so because I gain from this change.
I don't go 100 mph, even though I certainly could do so safely, because there is a law against it and I could get caught and get a big ticket or get thrown in jail, but I and many others go whatever speed we think we can get away with.
Man's nature is to do what is best for us, to cooperate only so long as it is convenient and helpful to us (Star Trek illustrated this using Romulans to speak this truth). Civilizations have existed on this principle alone, with the wealthy oppressing the rest of humanity because they only had to cooperate with others who had power, so they could treat most people like dirt. We did so in this country for 100 years of slavery because we could do so.
Thus, being Civilized, in my definition, means being able to reliably enter into contracts and fulfill them.
Which works fine if you associate with a group of people who agree with your definition of civilized; and will be useless if you hang out with a group of people who believe being "civilized" means reneging on contracts when it suits them, and valuing only the ability of others to inflict pain to protect their interests. These people would respect power over honor, and that would be their "civilized" nature.
You can of course associate with others who hold the same beliefs as you about civilized living; but then you have organized about a set of common beliefs -- beliefs being things you hold true with no proof of them being so.
In regard to "moral authority", that is a conceit of our age. I have no authority over your behavior any more than you have over mine.
I've got a police force with guns that says differently. I elect people who pass laws which are enforced by these police officers, and if your behavior does not comport with what I through my representatives thinks it should, my authority through those means will be made clear to you at the point of a weapon if necessary.
Of course, this is the morality of the majority, and can be tyranny excecpt if, as our founders noted, that majority has itself been bound by a higher, more constant morality.
I don’t have an easy way to differentiate the thread responses — it’s not like this thread was well-defined even before it became undead.
But as vanities go, it hasn’t done poorly.
Exactly the point, Charles. I don't associate with people who don't keep their word.
I'm not suggesting that other people are like me, should be like me, or even have any reason to be like me. I'm just explaining where I get my reasons for choosing the actions that I habitually, or after much thought, may take.
Go piss up a rope feminazi.
“”Yuck. Spoken like a true date-rapist.”
Go piss up a rope feminazi.”
What’s so funny is you probably thought this would insult me. But, I wear my feminazi badge with pride.
You know your completely unfair, OVER THE TOP, snarky comment deserved the completely unfair, OVER THE TOP, snarky response I gave it.
I gather you were none-too-happy about being profiled for your dick BUT we all know men’s brains are completely at the mercy of their dicks—like savages, they’ll kill the b*tch and worry about it later. Did it bother you at all to be called a knuckleheaded, testosterone-driven bully. It sucks to be stereotyped and degraded based on gender.
But, you probably don’t care a bit that I compared you to a date-rapist. Because you don’t live in a ‘woman’s world.’
Please indulge me with an open mind:
Imagine if you met with the label of ‘date-rapist’ daily and, in fact, most American men were routinely degraded, judged, stereotyped and made vulunerable because they are all, of course: prone to violence, unable to control their emotions or their hormones—dangerous—as a result, your salary is 25% lower than what you actually bring home.
Imagine if ruthless people stalked men like you who are easily MISUNDERSTOOD and easily targeted as ‘potential date rapists’ and you are taunted—even in the most ‘joking’ of ways—but it is pervasive. You don’t get a fair say in government because, in general, no one wants to see a potential date-rapist shape policy—and, hey, they look MEAN.
Let’s suppose one fine day someone decides to pull a gun on you on the street just for walking down it ‘looking like a date rapist.’ (And darn, it’s the one day you forget to carry your gun, too)
Or surprise, maybe it’s your spouse who you trusted, someone you thought loved you enough to know you aren’t a date rapist and would never try to kill you.
I am not sure I can equate it any more clearly for you, but your comment deserved my OVER THE TOP and snarky response—and you know it.
Of course, it’s not fair and it’s probably not accurate. You are likely a perfectly nice man that needs a little enlightenment from a woman like me.
If we were making jokes together on my couch in my living room, for me, there’s nothing like a little harmless, porno humor to get me laughing. But when you are on a board like this, in the context of a political/social conversation—your comment suddenly becomes unfunny because this isn’t the place for it.
In case you haven’t noticed, women haven’t yet made it to the White House and we have a long ways to go in terms of leadership altogether. Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton met with excessive hate. It was painful to watch.
You should make a non-political thread, call it something like: “Gratuitous, sexist humor for the women we love.” And you shouldn’t be afraid to make clear you made the thread for harmless fun or to bring levity but not out of the effort to oppress. Who can argue this motivation? I wouldn’t if I saw less of this ‘humor’ mixed with news and political commentary. I always wind up questioning it’s funniness and intent, myself. Honestly, why would you want sexism coupled with social and political commentary, anyway? These are areas where women are still oppressed.
And, is it so tough to apologize for offending a woman? Practice that, you’ll like the results.
If you were to do this, I’d be the first to post a joke on your thread. I am certain you’d like it, too, if you haven’t already got it in your repertoire.
Now lighten up and have fun, you Date Rapist!=)
Really beautiful. Unique rhythm, too—like sing-song and that works with the sentiment.
Thanks for sharing it, you have real talent with words.
“A Weeping of Stones
This is where the love went, that sang from youthful eyes,
Into the stone which weeps its tears, when joined by weeping skies.
The stone now shouts its lie out, the pain from metal blade,
Here lies the symbol of a love. Here’s where the pain has stayed.
The sculptor had an artful eye, and caught the loving glance.
He froze it with a chilling spell, and sundered love’s last chance.
Though art could capture what he saw, his heart was dead to sight,
In carving out a lover’s stare, he closed off loving’s light.
The girl has gone now, her reward, unknown to all of us,
How sad that this reminder then, becomes a warning thus,
Look out upon the world and see the wonder that is there,
But do not close your eye to love, and do not lose your share.
The sculptor died alone, they said, a sad and lonely man,
Who could have found fond happiness, as any of us can.
His fame did not provide for him the pleasures that he’d planned.
But I have seen a face like hers on children of this land.
NicknamedBob . . . . . . . . . . . . November 10, 2004”
And so you know: I may be a feminazi, but you can rest assured you can still have GENUINE, harmless and ugh, I hate this word because I don’t want to police you or anyone, ‘appropriate,’ full-on sexual and gratuitous fun because women were sexually liberated years ago. Hint: Don’t go posting it on an anti-sexism thread. Might not read as you intend it.
I want you to talk freely about why you think ‘newser’ women don’t deliver—but, I am here to tell you ‘newser’ men don’t either. And it’s for the same reason.
I trust you’re capable of deciding what’s ‘appropriate’ if you give pause beforehand, but I sure would appreciate it if you could find some room to consider me just a little while you are deciding.
I thought I told you to go piss up a rope. If you think I’m going to read through your crazy drivel/diatribe, then you’re crazier that your post makes you look like. Seek the help of a mental health professional immediately. They have a term for women like you, bat $h!t crazy.
It doesn’t matter that you didn’t read it, because I know someone else will.=)
And I swear to you—it wasn’t a bit mean. I practically apologized.
“I thought I told you to go piss up a rope.”
I gotta give you props. This is such a funny phrase, I haven’t heard it in years. It needs to come back into fashion.
And good morning to all. I’m leaving in a few minutes to take Frank for his checkup. He’ll hate it — shots.
Just circling your wagon, girlfriend.
Thanks for the plate warmer, who wants to eat off a cold plate?
Now I have a drunk brogue speaking rabbit to deal with.
*sigh*
We’re very thankful that you allowed us to hi-jack your missive!
Perhaps you should follow us on our quest of the Galaxy...?
Hey! They put the label on backwards!!
;o]
Just sing along with him. It'll be ok.
Do you think I should file a complaint? It still tasted the same... ;-)
Ummm...at the risk of sounding like a stick in the mud, we Undead Threaders hijacked this thread as our home for July.
We’re all kinda set in our ways, and since it is a little bit of a family thread, we try to keep ugly words and ugly feelings at a minimum.
If you two can’t play nice, we’ll have to send you to the Lower Levels for some time out with the denizens there.
Or we could always bribe you...;o]
I dunno. Can you drink it upside down?
If not, then maybe you should file a complaint...
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