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Quebec community cool to Darwin
Montreal Gazette via Canada.com ^ | May 20 2006 | Alison Lampert

Posted on 05/22/2006 8:14:10 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist

A high school science teacher vowed yesterday to continue telling his Inuit students about Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, despite complaints from parents in the northern Quebec community of Salluit.

Science teacher Alexandre April was given a written reprimand last month by his principal at Ikusik High School for discussing evolution in class.

Parents in the village 1,860 kilometres north of Montreal complained their children had been told they came from apes.

"I am a biologist. ... This is what I'm passionate about," said April, who teaches Grades 7 and 8. "It interests the students. It gets them asking questions.

"They laugh and they call me 'ape,' but I don't mind. If I stopped, they would lose out."

April, who is leaving the town when his contract runs out at the end of the school year, said the principal first told teachers last fall not to talk about evolution.

Debate over the teaching of evolution in Salluit - a village of 1,150 located along the northern coast of Quebec, between Ungava and Hudson bays - is pitting an increasingly religious Inuit population against a Quebec education system that's becoming more and more secular.

Although April, 32, won't be punished, his reprimand has outraged Quebec's scientific community.

"What he's doing is right and it's best for the kids," said Brian Alters, director of the Evolution Education Research Centre at McGill University. "Science should not be de-emphasized for non-science."

Over the years, controversy over the teaching of evolution has erupted in Pennsylvania, along with U.S. states in the so-called Bible Belt. In November, the Kansas State Board of Education approved science standards that cast doubt on evolution.

But with heightened religious fervour among the Inuit and Cree in northern communities, some observers suggest Canada might have its own Bible North.

Molly Tayara, a member of the Salluit school's volunteer education committee, said she'd tell her four school-age children to walk out of a lesson on Darwin.

"The minister (of education) may have come from apes, but we're Inuit and we've always been human," she told The Gazette in a phone interview.

"Most of us rely on God's word. ... God made Adam and Eve and they weren't animals."

Legally, Inuit schools in Quebec's north must teach evolution, as it's part of the provincial curriculum. After April's story came out this week in the magazine Quebec Science, Education Department officials immediately called the school to ensure the curriculum was followed.

Topics like reproduction and diversity of species are part of Science and Technology, a course for Grades 7 and 8. Darwin's work, based on the premise that humans and other animals have evolved over time, is further covered in Grade 11 biology - an elective course.

"We want the curriculum to be applied. We're just saying the theory of evolution could be taught more delicately to students," said Gaston Pelletier, director of educational services for the Kativik School Board, which serves northern Quebec's 14 Inuit communities. "We have to respect their view."


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To: RightWingAtheist

People-are-stupid-all-over alert.



OR
"it takes one stupid person to know a stupid person" alert


261 posted on 05/23/2006 3:19:32 AM PDT by WKB (D.L. Moody "The Bible was not written for your information, but for your transformation")
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To: Coyoteman

Huh?


262 posted on 05/23/2006 4:33:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: thomaswest
Creationism is connected only to a 2000-year-old text written at a time when almost all humans believed in superstitions.

Nothing new...

Most humans STILL believe in 'superstitions'!

263 posted on 05/23/2006 4:36:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138
It's a belief, but it's not a theory.

One man's trash is another's treasure...

264 posted on 05/23/2006 4:37:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: VadeRetro
Demolishing even a falling-apart stone wall is hard work, but that's nothing to putting it back together. Now that's done, but somehow I've got tons of leftover parts to haul away.

I feel for you!

My wifey had me make her a tree circle flower bed, 3 blocks high - 145 blocks total.

Plain ol' dirt wasn't good enough, so 5 trailer loads (140 bags) of topsoil later it is full. I've still got quite a few loads of cobbles (hen egg to cantalope size) to remove from the rock weed garden around the edge of the house.

265 posted on 05/23/2006 4:42:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: VadeRetro
They're called "Hissssspanics."

Have you heard about the snake that was so poor...

"How poor was he??"

...that he didn't have a pit to hiss in.

266 posted on 05/23/2006 4:44:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Coyoteman

Barney...

is that you?


267 posted on 05/23/2006 4:45:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Ichneumon
Gee Dave, maybe they're being steamrolled because really don't know what's good for anyone's kids, and are trying to dumb the curriculum so that everyone is at the same level of ignorance. Did you ever think of that?
268 posted on 05/23/2006 10:03:49 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: Elsie
Plain ol' dirt wasn't good enough, so 5 trailer loads (140 bags) of topsoil later it is full.

Good grief! You should tell her what the "top" in topsoil means.

269 posted on 05/23/2006 11:09:07 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: microgood

Gosh, you're right. How dare those liberal socialist/communists require us to protect our children with car seats!! It's our Constitutional right to turn our children into missiles when we lose control of our vehicles!!!

They can't turn our kids into mindless drones! Only WE can turn our kids into mindless drones (by way of collision-induced head injury)!


270 posted on 05/23/2006 11:19:22 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit
Gosh, you're right. How dare those liberal socialist/communists require us to protect our children with car seats!! It's our Constitutional right to turn our children into missiles when we lose control of our vehicles!!!

When I was growing up we did not have them, but somehow we survived. But a Nanny State lover like you should really like this:

Washington State Child Seat Laws

I figure within ten years, you will need to wear a booster seat until you are in high school. That should do wonders for young men's self esteem. But by then noone will be able to afford to have a child anyway. (Talk about catering to the seat manufacturers).

I wonder what the rules are when you take a child with you on a horseback ride. I am sure the Nanny Staters will come up with something. After all, to solve every known problem, just pass another law.
271 posted on 05/23/2006 11:33:27 AM PDT by microgood
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To: thomaswest

You should have taken my advice.

I'm an evo, which you would have known if you had only paid attention.


272 posted on 05/23/2006 11:39:07 AM PDT by stands2reason
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To: WKB
"it takes one stupid person to know a stupid person" alert

The old *it takes one to know one*. I haven't heard that in a long time. Who better to know.....

273 posted on 05/23/2006 11:48:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Nothing like someone else deciding for me what's best for my kids and having the ACLU to back them up in having it forced on us through the judiciary.


274 posted on 05/23/2006 11:49:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: microgood

Yep, you survived without a safety seat. So did I. But thousands of other children did not.

But don't get me wrong - I believe that you should be allowed to remove yourself and your offspring from the gene pool, if you want to. Just make sure you keep your windows rolled up when you allow your child to bounce around inside your car, so he doesn't injure me or mine when he flies through the air in that wreck.


275 posted on 05/23/2006 11:51:08 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit
Just make sure you keep your windows rolled up when you allow your child to bounce around inside your car, so he doesn't injure me or mine when he flies through the air in that wreck.

I would not do that to my children, I always use the latest technology. But I do not need nor want the idiot state bureaucrats telling me what is best for my child. The only thing the legislators know is what is best for their next election and that is getting campaign funds from the booster seat lobby.
276 posted on 05/23/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by microgood
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To: VadeRetro
Dirt and rock are being moved two five-gallon pails at a time.

OUCH!

I'm blessed: relatively flat land, an ATV with a dump cart and a swampy ol' hole to dump in.

277 posted on 05/23/2006 1:01:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: microgood

Of all the objections you could have to government intrusion on our lives, you choose one that makes more sense than many? What's that about?

Sorry if I don't have the confidence that you have in parents' judgement when it comes to keeping their kids safe. Without regulation, more children would die. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis, children are still dying while unrestrained. Imagine how much worse it would be if there weren't laws enforcing the use of restraints.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSF2003/809762.pdf


278 posted on 05/23/2006 1:02:54 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: Elsie
As I said, trying to haul a wheelbarrow up to the discard pile would be more work even than this. I think of it as two-a-day workouts, an hour early and an hour late.

Starting to regret I've only got enough left for probably today and tomorrow.

279 posted on 05/23/2006 1:05:53 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: thomaswest
Don't you find it strange and a question of morality that newborns, toddlers, and zillions of innocent children were drowned and zillions of innocent souls were extinguished in this supposed flood?

Ah...

The ol' "God is bad for killing 'innocent' babies" tangent.

280 posted on 05/23/2006 1:11:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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