Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.
How was it formed? If you're saying an ape is my ancestor, what is the ape's ancestor and so forth. Eventually you get to this thing that was formed and I would like to know how the evolutionists explain this without creation (or some other supernatural element) being involved.
A judge denouncing the motives of only one side in such a lawsuit and calling them liars based on nothing more than his divination of same,
Actually, he called them liars because they changed their story on the stand, and because they got caught telling different stories to different audiences.
"A belief in nothing is past sad."
It would be, wouldn't it? What gives you the idea that I believe in nothing. I believe in many things. Deities are not part of any of those beliefs.
You may mean that it's sad not to believe in some deity. I don't find that sad at all. I am not sad at all. I believe that the scientific explanations of our universe are amazing. I'm always delighted when another puzzle gets solved.
We are extremely fortunate to be living in a time where many age-old questions are being answered.
Thank you for sharing your ignorance with us.
That definition is a bit terse, but correct.
That doesn't change the fact that I'm still many posts behind in this thread. Do some more reading.
the American Taliban? do you have any idea how many lives and fortunes were sacrificed in order for men to come to the understanding expressed by our Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Your moral equivalency of Islamofascism and American Christianity is repugnant and will ultimately form the basis for a secular humanistic statism ala Europe. It'll take a few more decades but you better hope that American Christianity continues to uphold the truths so self evident to our founders. Otherwise, the state replaces the Creator and, no matter what form it takes and no matter what name you give it, that power free from the constraints of accountability to the God of Creation, always murders those who disagree with its mandates.
The paradox is that the exact opposite of your statement is closer to the truth: Another victory for the American Taliban.
Hehe. And all its members reside in PA. Go figure.
Would this then allow the teach of creationism in our schools?
In 300 BC, Socrates (470-399BC) engaged his learners by asking questions (know as the Socratic or dialectic method). He often insisted that he really knew nothing, but his questioning skills allowed others to learn by self-generated understanding.
Plato (428-348 BC), who was a student of Socrates and the teacher of Aristotle, wrote down the Dialogues, which have inspired thinkers for more than two thousand years. Plato called this process the dialectic, and considered it the pinnacle of learning. One of the significant features of the dialogical (dialectic) method is that it emphasizes collective, as against solitary activity. This is a question and answer form of arguing with an "expert" on one side and a "searcher" on the other. In the dialogues, the questioning of the expert by the searcher often exposes gaps in the reasoning. It is through this back and forth argument amongst friends (or adversaries) that understanding grows and becomes revealed to the learners. Such philosophical pursuit alongside and within a full education allows humans to transcend their desires and sense in order to attain true knowledge.
Actually, I think nothing of the kind. Ned? Is that you?
"I'm impressed. Most atheists have no sense of humor!"
I'm equally impressed. I had no idea that you knew most atheists well enough to assess their senses of humor. I only know a few dozen atheists. Oddly enough, they all have well-developed senses of humor.
But, with your acquaintance with most atheists, I'll bow to your superior knowlege in the matter.
Your entire post is incorrect. If leaping to wrong conclusions was an Olympic sport, you would win Gold! LOL
actually
Arrogance and censorship triumphed.
My pleasure.
Evolution - The only science where insulting your critics is accepted as evidence.
How can it be reliable if scientists consistently make the earth older and older (and I don't mean one year at a time). Scietists have said the Earth was millions of years old and not its billions. Next century, it'll probably be trillions.
So in other words, I wouldn't know what he looked like would I? LOL
Most of my exposure to atheists comes here at FR on the evo/crevo threads.
Son, it never began.
Heh! There's only one blackguard round here, and don't let anyone forget it. Sheesh, I drop the word from my tagline for one measly day and evo-thugs are trying to muscle in on my turf. You'll get yours sunshine.
"So in other words, I wouldn't know what he looked like would I? LOL"
You know what Jesus looked like? If he suddenly appeared on a street somewhere and you passed him later, you'd recognize him? I don't think so.
I suspect that he could be walking anywhere on this planet and not a person would recognize him.
Certainly he didn't resemble the most common depictions of him in art.
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