Posted on 10/03/2005 6:22:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
After a weekend break from a court case involving intelligent design, the Dover school board officials will face business as usual. The board today will hold its first school board meeting since the trial began.
On Sunday, Dover school board member David Napierski said he sympathized with the time fellow members Shelia Harkins and Alan Bonsell have spent on the court case.
“I really haven’t seen it erode them from their duties,” he said. “It definitely has taken a lot of their time . . . I think it is sapping some of the people, too.”
The trial began Sept. 26 in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg. It resumes Wednesday.
Napierski hopes to attend at least one day per week of the trial.
“We’re seeing one side of the whole picture right now,” he said. “I think it’s going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.”
He said dealing with the court case while running the school district is a “double-edged sword.
“I just hope and pray that our focus will stay on business,” he said.
School district residents might have a difficult time resuming day-to-day life as it was before the trial began.
Lonnie Langioni left his position as a school board member in Dover in 2003. He said the issue has divided the community and he wants folks to again be friends.
“We’re just going to have to let it run its course,” he said about the trial. “I’m just waiting for the day that this is all over and that the people of Dover can go back to talking to each other again.”
He said he follows the case and reads newspapers and articles online.
“It’s crossed all kinds of lines,” he said of the trial. “Dover is a great community. We all need to respect each others’ viewpoints.”
Former Dover school board member Barrie Callahan, a plaintiff in the court case, is ready to spend more time in court this week.
“The case needs to proceed,” she said Saturday. “I know the issue. To see it through the process is truly fascinating.
“You’re seeing the best of the best,” she said about attorneys. “It is an honor to be in their presence.”
She said she’s been following news of the trial posted online.
“It’s not about little tiny Dover,” she said. “This case really, really is important.”
UPDATE
Trial schedule: The trial resumes Wednesday and Thursday in U.S. Middle District Court in Harrisburg and is scheduled to continue Oct. 12, 14, 17 through 21, 24, 27 and Nov. 2 through 4.
At stake: It’s the most significant court challenge to evolution since 1987, and it’s the first time a court has been asked to rule whether intelligent design can be taught in public schools. Experts say the case’s outcome could influence how science is defined and taught in schools across the country. The lead defense lawyer said he wanted to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Coming this week: Among the scheduled witnesses: Dover school district science teacher Bertha Spahr and Jennifer Miller and plaintiffs Cynthia Sneath, Joel Leib and Deb Fenimore.
Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University, also is scheduled. Forrest co-authored “Creationism’s Trojan Horse,” subtitled “The Wedge of Intelligent Design.”
But you instantly posted that she's a fraud.
I like my earlier idea. There is no Nathan Zachary.
That's what I'm looking for, yet for some reason, there isn't one photo of them. Nor information of where these can be viewed. All we have is a "theory" Plus, another statement in which he says "there aren't any because". I want visible evidence, not theory and excuses.
Too much to ask for I guess. So, until I find actual PROOF, I will maintain There is no fossil record showing transitional evolution of ANY species. Which is exactly were I was 3 days ago when I posted, "there is no fossil record of transitional evolution".
Is that a Farvegnugen in that Troll's hand, or is he just glad to be hiding under the Aurora Bridge?
Are you ignoring post 256 on purpose?
Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler ;-)
Neither are drawing of a theory.
This is just the same old stuff, over and over and over and over again.
monkey skulls and human skulls, different races of humans does not prove evolution and transitional fossil record.
Walk into any bar and look at peoples heads. Some look like neadrathals. Jack Van ipe's wife Roxella looks like an alien. look at the Indian decendants of the Inca's in south America.
Somehow I knew you were going to post that "collection". (Sigh)
Later, time to go home.
Nah, it's only an old KraftDurchFreude. Fahrvergnugen is too expensive ;)
Now you say it doesn't mean anything. That's not the same thing.
You said it doesn't exist. It does. Tomorrow, you'll be back again saying it doesn't exist. That doesn't look very honest from here.
But that's always the way it goes. Here, yet again,
Somehow I knew you were going to post that "collection". (Sigh)But wasn't the evidence valid when it was supposedly missing?
- Tap-Dancing Science-Denier declares that the fossil record lacks instances of things changing in an orderly series from some Thing A to Thing Z. As this kind of evidence is to be expected, the lack of it must weigh against evolution having happened. By the very statement of this objection we are invited to believe the Tap-Dancing Science-Denier would accept such evidence IF ONLY IT EXISTED but the thing is it doesn't exist.
- Someone who disagrees demonstrates many instances well known in the literature of fossil series intermediate in form and time between some Thing A and some Thing Z.
- The Tap-Dancer then declares fossil series evidence to be irrelevant. How do we know ... various things? The dates of the fossils? Whether fossil A lies exactly on the ancestral line of fossil B?
So you're a liar.
Is that a Farvegnugen in that Troll's hand, or is he just glad to be hiding under the Aurora Bridge?Now if only he'd eat the Lenin statue for dessert.
Yeah, but there's always FReepmail ;)
BTW, didn't her first husband try to buy all existing copies of a... uhh... certain movie?
Better that than eating the "Waiting for the Inter-Urban" -- the latter has socially redeeming value.
I think you can just Google the naughty vidcaps.
I'm not sure why you jumped from my explanation as to why your frog in a blender story does not fit either abiogenesis or evolution to a lack of transitional fossils, but...
A cornucopia of Evolution information you should be interested in. PH's L-o-L
A bit about fossils, transitionals and taxonomy
BTW, what level of proof do you think science should be able to provide?
If IDists can discern design from nature in DNA, we can certainly discern typos. Or to put it another way, if we cannot, because of our human limited understanding, discern typos in DNA, what chance does ID have of discerning design from nature, especially since a designer could make design appear to be nature, and nature could very easily appear like design?
Hmmm... déjà vu:
If a living system looks well designed, it's evidence for ID. If it looks poorly designed, that's just because we have no way of knowing what constitutes good and bad design. (from The Quixotic Message)
Lungfish, and Snakeheads both have methods to breathe air directly by using what can only be described as lungs or lung precursors. Both lungs and float bladders are modified sections of the esophageal tube.
If you are demanding that modern lung tissue be the only standard for lungs you are being closed minded and religiously ignoring alternatives. Besides, it's nothing but the genetic fallacy in action.
Anyway, you shouldn't put all us Canucks in the same basket, just as we shouldn't put all Americans in the same basket.
I'm going by his posts on FD, where he said he was a Canuck. Mind you, if you don't want him, I don't blame you. :-)
Anyway, you shouldn't put all us Canucks in the same basket, just as we shouldn't put all Americans in the same basket.
I thought I'd been very careful not to do that.
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