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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: RGVTx

slapping self on forehead here, LOL


621 posted on 08/28/2005 2:20:24 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: justche

We are getting north and northeast winds from Katrina here at the southern tip of Texas. We still hit the 100 degree mark today even with north winds.


622 posted on 08/28/2005 2:21:56 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

I'm thinking that although I'm not terribly fond of Oregon--it's a fairly safe place to live--
Prayers for everyone and their loved ones in this path....


623 posted on 08/28/2005 2:26:34 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Dolphy
The guy second from the left looks like the guy Joran had the belt around his neck. Ughhh....I hate that picture. Were they just joking around or was that "act" really going on? Joran looks absolutely depraved in that photo.

More gang-looking signs. Everyone looks so casual in these photos and yet there is such a dark underbelly. Someone said (on SM?) that American girls drank like fish and were out of control when they visited Aruba and that the locals just drank enough to stay in a constant buzz. Guess that's why the photos appear to make Aruba "One Happy Island." I guess so...if you are constantly buzzed and getting your freak on at the expense of the naive.
624 posted on 08/28/2005 2:27:00 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Froufrou
When they say "premeditated" in Aruba, is their definition different from "premeditated" according to US law? "Premed" in the US can mean mere seconds, I believe.

Who knows what "premed" means in Aruba? Hours, weeks, months.....
625 posted on 08/28/2005 2:32:04 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Froufrou; maggief; truthluva; hummingbird; Rusty Roberts; Vn_survivor_67-68; justche; Dolphy; ...
I do not know if its true or not, but I just read a member posting on Rhiel World View that states that Lorenzo and Paul Brough are one and the same and Brough is PVD'S son.

From Riehl World View::

Yes, the Mr.Pink site is gone, just like so much of the evidence in the Holloway case. I have made 3 trips to Aruba to help the family. I am a close family friend and can tell you from first hand experience, the only thing the police/government of Aruba is doing is trying to cover the dirty trail left by Joran and Paulus. Mr. Pink is also a son of Paulus,,,half brother to Joran. Aruba is a corrupt island nation. The average working people are good, but the police/government are not. If you ever go there on vacation, watch your back...........

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Posted by: bud | Aug 14, 2005 11:16:32 AM

Mandarin yes the site was closed. I found it through a link from a chinese sex toy store that still had a link to it with a cached page. The site has been down for at least 2 weeks or so as the other links are gone from the cache. There are still other references to it on other sex toys link sites but none have cached pages. There is a Paul Brough SR still in Mich and Paul Brough JR is in Aruba. I don't know that it has anything to do with the case or if Geraldo found this info and went on the air with it as fact assuming that Joran was involved in the videos. It could be a completely seperate issue or it could be related. But this is something that is related to Aruba. The video's may be very consentual or not.

Posted by: Island Hopper | June 19, 2005 05:29 PM

626 posted on 08/28/2005 2:35:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: justche
I'm thinking that although I'm not terribly fond of Oregon--it's a fairly safe place to live--

I'm getting used to OR after moving back from the madhouse of CA, but then I was born here - we all have webbed feet, you know.

When I was a kid I heard that a lot, and kept examining my toes for indications of the webbing.

627 posted on 08/28/2005 2:45:09 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: rolling_stone

[[[[[[blush!]]]]]] Third Eye Blind.....love that group!


628 posted on 08/28/2005 2:50:12 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: hummingbird

Exactly! Could it mean that the bartender was given the 'signal' and that he has offered a statement? Short of grabbing and choking someone in anger, or pulling a trigger or shoving in such fashion as a person hits something in a life-threatening position, anything else would seem like 'hmmmm, think I will..."


629 posted on 08/28/2005 2:53:45 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Malichi; truthluva

You Mississippians, please check in!!


630 posted on 08/28/2005 3:00:18 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: MAWG
Do you sometimes think Texas is the universe, the rest is just imagination?

It's just remarkable how many of us are from Texas, every day someone else, we are a proud group, I must say.

Hook 'em

btw, every time I see those gang pictures, I hate that sometimes, some of them come too close to the hook'em horns sign, which we proudly uphold.

I will also say, every year, the TV networks do get calls, as people do misinterpret the hand-sign. Apparently some years ago it took on another meaning here in the states as well.

I know it means I love you in Hawaii.
631 posted on 08/28/2005 3:04:49 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: TexKat; cajungirl

Cajungirl should check in when she can too. I have no idea where she actually is though....


632 posted on 08/28/2005 3:10:03 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the ping. I think in the end most will see Joran is the sociopath we thought.


633 posted on 08/28/2005 3:23:39 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: justche
Cajungirl should check in when she can too. I have no idea where she actually is though....

last I heard she was thinking about going to Aruba and bodyguarding CC?

634 posted on 08/28/2005 3:23:54 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: shebacal

Thanks for being a decent person and getting permission before you posted that answer. I believe we were onto something with that fabric. I wonder what else they have, or what that fabric might "tell."


635 posted on 08/28/2005 3:24:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hummingbird

One of my favorite verses, hummingbird. Has helped immensely in difficult times. :o)


636 posted on 08/28/2005 3:27:07 PM PDT by theophilusscribe (Georgia)
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To: justche

from the hurricane check-in thread:

To: Howlin
Someone reported that cajun girl, who lives 50 miles from NO, is in MO (they think). She has not posted for several days.



47 posted on 08/28/2005 2:29:16 PM EDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Carolinamom
"Someone reported that cajun girl, who lives 50 miles from NO, is in MO (they think). She has not posted for several days."
That was me. I sent y'all a follow up, but...

Anyway, one of her posts indicated she would be off to see BB King with her daughter from Atlanta.(google says nash, TN) The flight was to be this afternoon.


103 posted on 08/28/2005 3:24:30 PM EDT by spunkets

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472358/replies?c=47


637 posted on 08/28/2005 3:29:17 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: shebacal

Lots of FReepers and loved ones in the path . . . thanks for your prayers . . .


638 posted on 08/28/2005 3:31:28 PM PDT by theophilusscribe (Georgia)
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To: shebacal

I never knew that Van der Straaten had a son that was one of the Pimps! Good L-rd, if the Holloway-Twittys had not gone down there as soon and stayed as long as they have, nothing would ever have happened. G-d bless the H-T family.


639 posted on 08/28/2005 3:32:08 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Prayers up for our FRiends!


640 posted on 08/28/2005 3:33:32 PM PDT by theophilusscribe (Georgia)
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