Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[Dolphy]

Interesting, I hadn't heard it before but it makes sense. In one single interview he left a lasting impression on my view of this case. Remember, he posted on some site:

"There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications. It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle some of it will be expected ... In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved. I wish us all strength."

[hummingbird]

Who is their biggest customer???

What about the Saudi prince-ling who shagged out of Aruba around early June in his private, diplomatic jet?

Maybe he's just doing a FedEx type job with the plane...

[hummingbird]

Yes, Geraldo mentioned the porn tape very early in the investigation but then it was quite suddenly dropped. I thought Geraldo was just throwing something out to see what would stick but maybe he was onto this early on and was asked/told to pull back in order to protect the investigation. Kind of like when he drew the map in the sand in the war zone...

[RGVTx]

More thoughts on Charles Croes. It wasn't just the wording of CC's post, but also the indication that he knew so much about what had happened and what would happen. His post was from June 2, so early in this case to know so much.

[RGVTx]

That's the post I'm talking about.
Notice how he doesn't hesitate in what he says. He makes statements as if there is no question in his mind about what he says. Only in the last sentence does he qualify it as his opinion.

[hummingbird]

Do Posners still own businesses in Miami, Florida? If so, is that why Paulus van der Sloot, soon to be without judge-in-training income, recently visited Miami?

Wasn't there talk of a C&C being planned to open in Miami?

[looois]

I'm going to agree that CC is a possible candidate to be Shango. Although it appears he not only speaks clearly, but jots down notes easily. But I'm just not certain.

I would be more inclined to want to look at an educated preacher, or Catholic priest. Some of these guys carry PhD's in such difficult disciplines as "Theological Philosophy." One who takes an interest in things mystic, or studies, (even if as a hobby) primitive or native cultures and religions of the region where his life's work has been carried out. A literary person with a flare for writing. And, from the beginning has taken a keen interest in this case, knows much about it as well as some of the characters involved, and is simply using a writers' technique to turn the whole affair into a mystery, or riddle, if you will. Kind of much like a playground boy who likes to play tricks and pranks on other children.

Which brings me a Spanish word. "Chango;" which sort of means a boy who likes to play tricks and pranks on other children. I wonder how this word is spelled, and pronounced, in the native language.

Also, when the case is concluded, I doubt that we'll ever find out who Shango really is.

[hershey]

From the video of their arrest on tv, they looked scared, really scared. Maybe this time they'll sing like canaries.

[Canedawg]

"Aruba is a secular place. Not a lot of conscience getting in the way."

The cause and effect of the above speaks volumes (not only about Aruba, either).

[Pepper777]

"More thoughts on Charles Croes. It wasn't just the wording of CC's post, but also the indication that he knew so much about what had happened and what would happen. His post was from June 2, so early in this case to know so much""

Exactly! Charles Croes' own ominous words, if they are to be believed, seemed to imply he had the knowledge to post Shango type clues.

[NCjim]

I'm a guy, last time I checked, that is... :-)

[NCjim]

Interesting post from SM:

It is my humble opinion that PVDS knows it all! He's not flunking his judge tests for nothing. This man wants to stay Judge of Instruction where he can keep his friends from ever getting in front of a real judge. I think his attempts to pass the real judge test is a ruse to cover for his wanting to stay where he is, since it would SEEM that becoming a real judge would be the logical step in such a career progression. He can't just SAY he likes it where he is. I recall something my Dad of long ago...telling my age here....said. He was in charge of giving tests to Army draftees way back when. He said it was obvious which ones failed the tests on purpose just to keep from being taken into the Army and those were the ones they took anyway because they were smart enough to know how to fail a test they should not have failed. I think PVDS fails those tests on purpose so he can keep the ring safe.

[Froufrou]

Beth WILL avenge her daughter. These arrests were no surprise to her. And there are more to come. The longer it takes, the more people who will fry. I realize now this is how she can maintain her composure.

Those who still think Beth is in this just for Natalee, you are wrong. She is full-tilt boogie going to do her downright best to make sure it won't happen again. She is doing what Natalee would want her to do - she is doing her best to save the ones who would be the next victims.

I wish the people at SM and RW would be more careful what they say, regardless of the fact that Beth is an exceptionally strong woman. Maybe some people are just plain afraid to acknowledge that strength and resolve. To me, it's a shining badge, a testament of motherhood. And I know Natalee is proud of her.

[Otta B Sleepin]

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[Sunshine55]

Looks like the heat from the kitchen has driven Tito out...

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
GreatOwl's talkin' about this:

Kismette wrote:
finngirl11 wrote:
Tito "DID SHE NOT ASK FOR IT?" Lacle has canceled his tickle account, removed his site: http://profile.tickle.com/evM1hx4yr_GY_jqS

since Jaime also removed his w/in the last 24 hrs I guess anyone who wants to save photos etc should copy while they're still available

Thought this might be of interest to y'all.

[MinuteGal]

If it wasn't for Beth and family tenaciousness, it's unlikely the porn ring and drugging of girl victims by Joran the Moron and his animalistic gang would be brought to light so dramatically.

The Holloway/Twitty clan is functioning as a team, each spelling the other and each following up on tips and investigations.

To me, they are heroes, displaying the best of American stick-to-it-iveness, efficiency, can-do spirit and courage.

Leni

[shebacal]

Natalee's family does know about the green fabric, but they have no answer yet about ALE's interest in it.

This is the answer on the green fabric that I received yesterday, (I received permission today to post it):

"THANKS. I SAW THAT TOO AND STILL DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER"

On Fri, Aug 26th, I sent an e-mail to Dave's helpfindnatalee@comcast.net about the green fabric. My e-mail to Dave explicitly detailed why I firmly believe the green fabric that was found on the east coast rocks is from the green blouse Natalee was wearing when she disappeared.

I base my opinion on the small white spot (that shows up on Natalee's blouse in the pictures of her on the beach) in the right cup area just where the striped material meets the dotted material. The small white spot also shows up in the right cup area of the fabric that shows between the searcher's legs, in the enlarged view, which I was able to see due to the efforts of the people who spotted the green fabric on the Fox News video and those who enlarged the green fabric pictures at:

http://photobucket.com/albums/a164/Wick3dsbaby/

and due to those who posted the pictures here.

P.S. Can someone show me how to make links to websites activate?

[besafe05]

You hit the nail right on the head.

[Dark Skies]

You've got mail re: html for posting links.

[shebacal]

Thank you both for the html info.