Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: WestCoastGal; All

I've been wondering about that, too. Especially since this is one of the hottest stories in the universe right now.

2,001 posted on 07/04/2005 5:58:14 PM PDT by varina davis

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To: TexKat

If you're taking a vote..... I vote to stay in the Smoky Backroom. Less chance of having trolls dropping in and stiring the pot looking for a flame war. You know the ones.

They drop in and say things like,

"How much longer are you gonna talk about this case?"

"There are other things going on in the news."

[Plus, I can smoke in this room. LOL]

2,002 posted on 07/04/2005 5:59:04 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: BamaBlue

the same sort of dimbulb wrote that post as have written the love letters to Scott Peterson. something not right with them, obviously. some sick women out there.

2,003 posted on 07/04/2005 5:59:36 PM PDT by xsmommy

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To: the Deejay

Beth didn't say Natalee needed them for survival.

I know and I am dying to find out what they were.

But, the very fact that Beth mentioned them means they were important. The question is...how important. And would they have reacted badly with the date drug de jour of Carlos and Charlies...and Jurine.

2,004 posted on 07/04/2005 6:00:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: xsmommy

I'm not not sure who they are, but SM is the site that booted me. I probably should have just ignored them, but it just got to be too much. There's a lot of "out there" stuff going around on a lot of websites. I just wish some of it could be more helpful in finding NH.

2,005 posted on 07/04/2005 6:01:16 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: truthluva

I saw that! They're disgusting!!!

2,006 posted on 07/04/2005 6:01:44 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Rippersnapper

We live about four miles from Mr. Rushmore. For those of you who have never been to see it, I strongly urge that you do. The pictures will never do it justice. The monument is truly awesome. And the fireworks there last night, set to patriotic music, were breathtaking.

The men who carved the mountain are owed a great debt of gratitude.

2,007 posted on 07/04/2005 6:02:48 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks

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To: truthluva

i don't dare post there because i am sure i would be booted. i have only lurked and today i saw one guy cautioned for being too testy, in defense, i think, of the US judicial system as compared to elsewhere. i thought he was perfectly justified in what he said. i lurk there bc they have people on the ground in aruba posting and it is interesting, but the anti=US/anti HollowayTwitty stuff is irritating beyond belief.

2,008 posted on 07/04/2005 6:03:52 PM PDT by xsmommy

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To: monkeywrench

Yes they were disgusting. Since I can't get back in I guess I'll just wait for some of the reposts from you and TexKat. It's just very disppointing to see some of that kind of stuff.

2,009 posted on 07/04/2005 6:03:57 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: xsmommy

The thread I responded to had to do with the "supposed" behavior of the MB students on a return flight from Aruba on June 3. The person made reference to how loud and carefree they were supposedly acting. This went on and on and on. Geeezzz! They're teenagers...that's what they do.

2,010 posted on 07/04/2005 6:06:56 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: xsmommy

Hi xs. From what I can tell FNC is all repeats, so likely no Greta until tomorrow. My daughter in the Caymans's tells me the pro Aruban sentiment dominates.

2,011 posted on 07/04/2005 6:09:02 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)

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To: varina davis; TexKat

Thanks TK, ping us when you start a new thread. Thank for all your hard work digging up the news. I must admit I'm hopelessly behind now trying to catch up!

2,012 posted on 07/04/2005 6:10:15 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If you're LURKING and reading you should be DONATING to the FReepathon!! Go Jr ~8~)

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To: truthluva

Go get another email addy and change your name.

2,013 posted on 07/04/2005 6:11:26 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Rushmore Rocks

Your Mt. Rushmore is beautiful! I was there on a layover (flight attendant). I've got to get my kids out there. I'll look forward to seeing it again. With every re-run of "North by Northwest," I'm reminded of the splendor!

2,014 posted on 07/04/2005 6:12:54 PM PDT by toldyou

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To: xsmommy

A little while ago, the mod there chided someone for wanting to use an anti-Bush avatar. I pretty well hold my tongue. Yesterday, some guy wanted to argue about sources with me. Insight mag is bad according to him. AP, NY Times good credible. NUTS!

2,015 posted on 07/04/2005 6:13:40 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

Tried that. Wouldn't even let me do a search on topics. They must go by IP addy. No loss though. Some really out there people show up over there.

2,016 posted on 07/04/2005 6:14:38 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: truthluva

i know FR has its share of obnoxious and nutty posters also, but dang SM has some humdingers!

2,017 posted on 07/04/2005 6:14:56 PM PDT by xsmommy

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To: Rushmore Rocks

Mr. Rushmore!!!

Been there, done that!

And WALL DRUG.....

Their slogan: "Where the heck is WALL DRUG?"

2,018 posted on 07/04/2005 6:15:58 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

From what I understand is that Fox News (cable channel) will air the press conference at 10:00 p.m. EST on the Greta Van Sostren show. This is not definite - just what I heard.

I'll try to stay awake (long weekend), but if I should nod off, I know my FR friends will post every word, right?

2,019 posted on 07/04/2005 6:16:38 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: xsmommy

Yeah they do.. The shango riddles were entertaining if nothing else.

2,020 posted on 07/04/2005 6:16:48 PM PDT by truthluva

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