Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: the Deejay

Nothing at this point would shock me. Maybe we'll soon see pics of a Joran look alike partying with cute American college girls at C&C's.

1,701 posted on 07/04/2005 12:23:34 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: Carolinamom

He looked totally different yesterday,
at the beach and today.

There are a few screen captures
from today but not good ones.

I am going by when I saw him
on tv going into court today.

1,702 posted on 07/04/2005 12:24:51 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Carolinamom

He looked padded through the chest area....really wierd.

1,703 posted on 07/04/2005 12:25:09 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: spectre

I wish Beth would come back to the States, and go on Larry King, Fox, Oprah, Good morning America...etc., to tell her story.

Holloway's Mom a Media Star - Fox News

1,704 posted on 07/04/2005 12:25:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

If Jorans attorney appealls this decision than the proscution has to produce all the evidence they have....is that right?

That's my understanding all these weeks, but hey! This is Aruba, rules can change w/the wind. LOL!

1,705 posted on 07/04/2005 12:26:06 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I would have spilled the beans already

I would have hurt someone already!

1,706 posted on 07/04/2005 12:26:28 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: Rippersnapper

You think they would DARE deny her re admittance to the island?

It's our Independence Day, and they let those two boys go free. Twisted irony. Another grim day to recall for the Twittys. How sad.

1,707 posted on 07/04/2005 12:29:14 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: Jrabbit

He really did look beefier
today. In the face as well.

Weight is usually lost, not
gained, in jail.

1,708 posted on 07/04/2005 12:29:38 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: kcvl

I hear you!

All the legal commentators are basically saying to the family "sit down, shut up, let Aruba do it's job."

Problem is Aruba has not done it's job. Think about it. Is this the way a missing person case is handled as a matter of routine? Talk, talk, talk. Blah, blah, blah.

Is this what happens when a child goes missing in Aruba? Hell, when do they DO instead of talk?
(rhetorical question only, we all know that answer.)

1,709 posted on 07/04/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

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To: the Deejay

I've been searching for that pic of him today....with the blue and white t-shirt or whatever that was. He looked completely different from yesterday.

1,710 posted on 07/04/2005 12:32:41 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: spectre

You think they would DARE deny her re admittance to the island?

But of course they can!

For starters, Beth has been the one that's bad news for Aruba. Sooner they're rid of her... the better for the island.

Beth Twitty = BIG THORN in side for Aruba.

1,711 posted on 07/04/2005 12:32:43 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Jrabbit

Nor did he look the same today
as he did getting into the car
the other day.

1,712 posted on 07/04/2005 12:34:17 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

Need to start watching the tickle sites or msn personal space sites, as apparently the brothers are serious computer users.

1,713 posted on 07/04/2005 12:35:02 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: TexKat

Does this press conference mean what the Twitty's suggested when they threatened to "blow the doors off" this investigation?

1,714 posted on 07/04/2005 12:35:49 PM PDT by sarasota

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To: the Deejay

Weight is usually lost, not gained, in jail.

Unless your godfather is running the investigation and your father has connections.

Beth is not going to let this go, EVER. That redhead has a temper and when she is pushed she can use it! They have kept their cool much longer than I could have, that's for sure.

If they think they are going to get rid of her by stalling or covering up this investigation they are very, very WRONG.

1,716 posted on 07/04/2005 12:36:07 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: the Deejay

Looked like he may have had a bullet proof vest on under his shirt today.

1,717 posted on 07/04/2005 12:36:33 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: dc-zoo

Speaking of JVDS of course.

1,718 posted on 07/04/2005 12:38:27 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: Carolinamom

Any screen shots of before today and today of Joran that we could compare/contrast? He did look much broader in the shoulders and chest than earlier imo....plus different hair and shades today.

Joran van der Sloot, second left, walks handcuffed with police near Palm Beach, Aruba, Sunday, July 3, 2005. van der Sloot was detained June 11, 2005, in connection with the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway who went missing May 30, 2005 on this Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/Courtesy of Jossy Mansur, Diario)

Joran van der Sloot, left, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Monday, July 4, 2005, where a judge will decide if he and two other detained suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway will be held for 60 more days. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean island on May 30, 2005. (AP Photo/Jason Inesea, Bon Dia)

In this photo released by Pancayente.com, Paul van der Sloot, left, his wife Anita, center, and son Joran pose for a picture at a birthday party in Aruba in this undated 2005 picture. Paul was detained Thursday, June 23, 2005, in connection with the May 30, 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, just weeks after Joran was taken into custody in connection with the same case. Paul van der Sloot is a judicial official on the Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/www.pancayente.com)

July 3: Joran van der Sloot, at left in blue shirt, walks handcuffed with police on Palm Beach, Aruba.

1,720 posted on 07/04/2005 12:40:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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