Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
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Kalpoe Brothers Go, VDS Stays

Kalpoe brothers are freed, however Joran van der Sloot will stay for another 60 days.

1,661 posted on 07/04/2005 11:53:39 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Burpinflyz

why does Joran look like a man in his 20's now, did a "switch" occur?

OMG!!! I thought the SAME THING!!

PLUS! The addition of the wrap around sunnies!

1,662 posted on 07/04/2005 11:54:05 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Carolinamom

Have the crypts in the graveyard near the Sloot's house been investigated? I still think that would be a good and convenient place to "hide" a body.

They checked one of the graveyards. I don't know which one though.

1,663 posted on 07/04/2005 11:54:15 AM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

Holloways and Twittys to have a press conference in 2 hours per Fox News.

Lots of fireworks, today!

1,664 posted on 07/04/2005 11:56:24 AM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

Kalpoe Brothers Go Free.
I am not surprised at this.

1,665 posted on 07/04/2005 11:56:24 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Jrabbit

Just keep this date in mind....June 11.

1,666 posted on 07/04/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by truthluva

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To: kcvl

IMO, they should tell all they know. Lay it all out. The brothers will no doubt be on a plane out of there within the hour. Joran and his father have made sure Natalee is gone. Beth and Jug and all of the family should prepare themselves that the corrupt and inept system has assured that no resolution will be had. Go home, hire a sneaky investigator and just wait.....what a nightmare

1,667 posted on 07/04/2005 11:59:29 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: the Deejay; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Joran will eventually go free as well.

I still believe that there is a cover-up going on and unless Natalee is found this case will go unsolved.

1,668 posted on 07/04/2005 12:00:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Carolinamom

" How could they be permitted to leave the island?"

Because it's 'Happy Island'. They don't fit anymore. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the aruban LE bought the boys the tickets out.

1,669 posted on 07/04/2005 12:00:39 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: TexKat

If Sloot gets through this and gets released, I think he will move up in the 'criminal' element there. He will have shown the upper echelons that he can withstand a great deal of pressure.

Suppose any US college will still want him?

1,670 posted on 07/04/2005 12:00:56 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

I just had a great thought. The only US college that should accept him should be one from ALABAMA.

1,671 posted on 07/04/2005 12:02:04 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

I agree....sadly. The media will lose interest unless Natalees family can keep things stirred up. Bless them...

1,672 posted on 07/04/2005 12:02:07 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: Rippersnapper

Suppose any US college will still want him?

Ithaca, the City of Evil, would take him in a heartbeat.

1,673 posted on 07/04/2005 12:02:16 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

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To: kcvl

I wish Beth would come back to the States, and go on Larry King, Fox, Oprah, Good morning America...etc., to tell her story.

I know she doesn't want to leave the island without her daughter, but she might accomplish more on friendly ground.

I'm so sorry for the whole family.

1,674 posted on 07/04/2005 12:03:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: All

Holloways are now meeting with an attorney.

1,675 posted on 07/04/2005 12:03:19 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Rippersnapper

University of Alabama at Birmingham...

1,676 posted on 07/04/2005 12:03:26 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)

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To: TexKat

And Joran gets to have an attorney now during all interrogations.....it's over. All he has to do is shut up, not answer anything and wait out his 60 days. Damn

1,677 posted on 07/04/2005 12:05:02 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: Rippersnapper

Suppose any US college will still want him?

He would only fit in with some.

1,678 posted on 07/04/2005 12:05:27 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: spectre

I was going to say that she could return to the sates and do those shows and leave her husband and ex husband in Aruba to handle things. BUT, its hard saying if Aruba would let her back in or not if she wanted to return.

1,679 posted on 07/04/2005 12:05:50 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

Joran will eventually go free as well.

Yeah, it's a given. I've been saying this all along.

1,680 posted on 07/04/2005 12:06:21 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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