Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: alrea

obviously to show how serious they are about the investigation, now.

Preparations for tomorrow's hearing.

1,342 posted on 07/03/2005 11:10:39 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: stlnative

Thanks, will do.

1,343 posted on 07/03/2005 11:11:23 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

TexKat,

I'm busy for the next few days, though this afternoon and tomorrow morning I have a few breaks.

Can you start a new thread, if need be?

Thanks!
maggie

1,344 posted on 07/03/2005 11:20:23 AM PDT by maggief

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To: TexKat; maggiefluffs; spectre; bonfire

Fox has pictures of the beach trip!

1,345 posted on 07/03/2005 11:22:03 AM PDT by Howlin

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To: maggiefluffs

Yes, will do. You've got pmail.

1,346 posted on 07/03/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

FNC showing photo stills of JvdS and police on the beach, photos courtesy of Jossy Mansur/Diario.

1,347 posted on 07/03/2005 11:23:30 AM PDT by maggief

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To: Ditter

Doesn't smell like skunk. Grab some sage out of the pantry & burn a bit of it. Smells very much like marijuana.

1,348 posted on 07/03/2005 11:26:33 AM PDT by elli1

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To: stlnative

Freepmail

1,349 posted on 07/03/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

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To: maggiefluffs

Aruba Missing Teen: Charges Expected - PeopleNews

Sunday Jul 03, 2005 7:00am EST (updated)

By Stephen M. Silverman In a case already tainted by charges of a cover-up, Aruba's Attorney General Karin Janssen announced on Friday that the three young men being held in the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway had been charged with murder.

But then, Aruba's chief government spokesman, Ruben Trapenberg, quickly stepped up and announced that, in fact, the three detainees had not been formally charged – but could be as soon as Monday.

Trapenberg blamed the confusion on "semantics. It's been a problem since day one. The charging is a formal process that happens later on. It could happen as soon as Monday."

The men in question are Joran van der Sloot, 17, and two Surinamese brothers, Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, who were arrested 10 days after Holloway vanished on May 30 during a chaperoned school trip with some of her classmates.

Although no physical evidence has been released that suggests 18-year-old Holloway is dead, authorities say that a body is not required for murder charges to be made.

In several TV news interviews, Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, has roundly criticized investigators, whom she accuses of possibly shielding someone – such as van der Sloot's 52-year-old father, she has said. Paul van der Sloot, a Dutch judge in training, was briefly taken into custody, then released.

In response to the faultfinding of his island's lawmen, Trapenberg insisted: "They do not bungle cases. Aruban police and prosecutors are professional forces that have been successful."

1,350 posted on 07/03/2005 11:30:31 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Howlin

bookmark

1,351 posted on 07/03/2005 11:42:01 AM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: No Surrender No Retreat

In Huntsville now. Grew up in Birmingham (Vestavia Hills). Moved to HSV in '88, back to BHM in '93 where we lived in Mountain Brook until '95. In Huntsville since then.

1,352 posted on 07/03/2005 11:44:44 AM PDT by BamaBlue

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To: presently no screen name

On this 3rd hand info - Either her number came up on his cell or it didn't.

I remember it was reported earlier that N's own cellphone didn't work there, so as someone else posted, maybe she did have a rental phone, if this info about the call is accurate.

1,353 posted on 07/03/2005 12:05:27 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: TexKat

Fuhrman stated that Joran's statement that Natalee fell when getting out of the car in front of the HI, Furhrman interprets that as when Natalee is found, there will be blunt force injury to the head and that Natalee's body will be found near the HI rather than near the lighthouse.

Thanks for that. Missed seeing him last night. This makes a lot of sense.

1,354 posted on 07/03/2005 12:18:29 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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1,355 posted on 07/03/2005 12:24:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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Video of Joran taken to beach by Aruban LE:

http://thepoliticalteen.com/video/beach3talk.wmv

1,356 posted on 07/03/2005 12:26:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Good stuff, TexKat. Bookmark.

1,357 posted on 07/03/2005 12:32:28 PM PDT by varina davis

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To: TexKat

Bump your post 1213! Very interesting.

1,358 posted on 07/03/2005 12:34:52 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: varina davis; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ..

Video of Joran leaving the police station.

http://thepoliticalteen.com/video/jorancar.wmv

1,359 posted on 07/03/2005 12:36:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Either Joran is HUGE or the people with him are stature challenged!

1,360 posted on 07/03/2005 12:37:14 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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