Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: TexKat

LOL...you go TexKat!

1,241 posted on 07/02/2005 7:06:23 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; cajungirl; TexKat; brigette; All

There is not much meat in there. Three young liars and a father that is covering from experience and knowledge of Dutch law...and an island that is so frikken dirty from money laundering and drugs and predation of young women from the U.S. that the truth might never get out...without your help.

Jan, as a former police-woman, your insight is much needed.

1,242 posted on 07/02/2005 7:09:58 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: doc

A real a**hole and could be part of a possible coverup.

could be??

I'm like Beth, I'll even go a little further and say Trap knows more than what he is telling.

1,243 posted on 07/02/2005 7:17:05 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

I told him it only required one language to send him back from whence he came.

ROFL

I actually love languages.

It's the perps I despise.

1,244 posted on 07/02/2005 7:17:20 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

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To: Sunshine55

Trapperbird is a punk with an attitude. He has anger management problem also. The POS looked as if he could bite a nail into when Kaisch mentioned the FBI should be allowed to participate, as a full partner in this investigation.

I believe they are all worried about their little hedonistic cess pool being exposed for the mass corruption, drug trafficking, money laundering, white slavery trade and clandestine govt officials.

They like our money, but hate Americans. The people like Mickey Johns and his family are an exception to the rest of those fools.NSNR

1,245 posted on 07/02/2005 7:17:28 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: monkeywrench

Our govt. has DEA and CIA

Whose hands are also tied in this case. Or they would have done something weeks ago.

It's not a drug case.

It's not a intelligence case.

NH is not an elected offical or a member of our the armed forces, etc., etc.

1,246 posted on 07/02/2005 7:19:09 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

If LE is controlled by drug traffickers, then we seize more of their "product". They in turn cough her up or put pressure on local LE to get the 3 turds to tell where she is.

1,247 posted on 07/02/2005 7:26:13 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: af_vet_1981

He got me hot af_vet_1981. I had just listened to Ruben Trapenberg and here this mangy looking creature laughing and trying to make fun of Americans right here on our own soil. Its time to send him back where he belongs.

1,248 posted on 07/02/2005 7:26:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I wish Fox would do the interviews in a less jubilant environment than the Holiday Inn. It's not only distracting, but free PR for a rocking good time in corrupt Aruba.

1,249 posted on 07/02/2005 7:27:24 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: toldyou

Shortcuts... (updated version)

A-DK = David Kock (Satish's Attorney
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)

Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)

CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
CNN = Cable News Network

DH = David Holloway (Natalee's Father)
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect

GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)

HNN = Headline News Network

Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect

LE = Law Enforcement

MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
MSM = Main Stream Media

Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)

SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay - possible suspect)
SG or SG's = Security Guards
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 18 year old suspect

VDS = van der Sloot

1,250 posted on 07/02/2005 7:28:52 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

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To: spectre

I agree, it is very annoying. It also has a frenetic sad sound to it.

1,251 posted on 07/02/2005 7:30:02 PM PDT by jacquej

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To: TexKat

" I have never seen the uniform of a marine"

Dutch Marines = social work program

Aruba has been delaying and sending out mixed signals to protect tourism and insiders. It backfired.

The drug cartels will not like this staying in the news.

1,252 posted on 07/02/2005 7:32:33 PM PDT by alrea (Zogby polls show 47% believe Clintons involved if evidence removed in Vince Foster death.)

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To: brigette

Thanks brigette. So could you make a list for acceptable cuss words..like KMA and GTH Aruba?

Couldn't resist that one, brig :)

1,253 posted on 07/02/2005 7:33:40 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: brigette

Lurker here,

I heard the parents say that they had information which, if announced, would be "devastating".

Could "date rape" be a HUGE issue in Aruba...are other victims stepping forward?

1,254 posted on 07/02/2005 7:35:18 PM PDT by demsux

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To: jacquej

I think we need to get Mickey Johns off that island. He's not going to be safe after what he said about the police..shudder.

1,255 posted on 07/02/2005 7:37:25 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: spectre

I wish Fox would do the interviews in a less jubilant environment

Ya beat me to it.

I was going to post the same.

Okay, I know it's a small island, but! FGS! Move over a block or two and stop apologizing to the viewers for the MUSIC noise!

1,256 posted on 07/02/2005 7:38:33 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: spectre

I agree, Spectre. He is the only one who has been forthright in the whole parade of suspects. I think I read somewhere that he isn't Aruban, but from Trinidad. Not 100% sure of that, but if so, maybe he can get off that ugly little island.

1,257 posted on 07/02/2005 7:40:54 PM PDT by jacquej

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To: demsux

Date rape is likely highly acceptable
in Aruba.

Seems like everything else is.

1,258 posted on 07/02/2005 7:43:20 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: jacquej

I thought I heard Grenada.

I hope he has a lawyer, wins a lawsuit (fat chance) and can afford to leave.

1,259 posted on 07/02/2005 7:44:42 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: spectre

See ya all tomorrow, good people.

It's been a bitter sweet day..

1,260 posted on 07/02/2005 7:46:38 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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