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An Open Letter to Mr. Jim Robinson
April/25/05 | jveritas

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas

What is happening to Free Republic Mr. Robinson? The Bush Haters and Republican Haters are getting louder and more daring by the hour. These phony conservatives who claim the Conservatism purity are savagely attacking President Bush and the GOP as bad as the worst liberals.

The Bash Bush feast is becoming a part of every thread. Everywhere you see Bush is a traitor, Bush wants to sell our sovereignty to Mexico, Bush is a liberal, Bush has no spine, Bush is destroying our economy, Bush is puppet in Vincent Fox hand, Bush is this Bush is that, everything wrong in this world is Bush fault.

Nothing but doom and gloom is coming from these phony conservatives. For them our economy is destroyed, liberals are controlling the government, the GOP will be finished by 2006, Mexico has invaded the US and changed its identity, China is superior to us, we are no more a superpower, and on and on and on. Every minor bump in the road is turned into a Mount Everest of catastrophe and disaster

Either Free Republic will remain the Premier political forum on the internet, a site to advance the real conservative cause and provide great and continuous support to our President Bush and the Republican Party, or it will be forum controlled by bitter and delusional phony conservatives who can never win on the ballot box, and come to FR to poison the atmosphere through their extreme kooky rhetoric and turn it into another Dummyland.

Enough is Enough.


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To: Czar
"stopping legal immigration until such time as the entire system has been properly repaired and the illegal alien invasion halted.:"

Very much agreed.

481 posted on 04/26/2005 4:51:14 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!)
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To: TAdams8591
Point is, you can't trust the federal government to handle legal immigration properly until they convince us they can be trusted in the matter of illegal aliens.

Considering its record to date, the Feds have a lot of work to do convincing American citizens that they are to be trusted on anything to do with immigration, legal or illegal.

482 posted on 04/26/2005 4:59:30 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Totally and fully agree!


483 posted on 04/26/2005 5:06:09 PM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: JesseJane

That's me, frisky 'cause life is risky.


484 posted on 04/26/2005 5:06:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: jveritas; JesseJane; WilliamofCarmichael; B4Ranch; Mr. Mojo; All
Dear Averitas, it seems to me that many of the people who you are attacking are the REAL conservatives.

btw, I have a hunch that you don't like white people all that much. I hope I'm wrong.

485 posted on 04/26/2005 5:45:00 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: B4Ranch

:) hehe!! Alright........!


486 posted on 04/26/2005 6:25:52 PM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: Czar; Lazmataz; TheSpottedOwl; B4Ranch; dirtboy; WilliamofCarmichael; FBD; F16Fighter
Oh look, this just in:
Immigration Effects on California

Posted on 04/26/2005 6:18:56 PM PDT by Founding Father

· Labor market unable to absorb huge flow. A recently released report by the prestigious Rand Think Tank found that the California job market cannot continue to absorb the huge number of low-skill, under-educated immigrants. The report found that the number of low-skill jobs, 2. 5 million, is almost unchanged from 1970 and that the growing number of immigrants are putting increased demands on public services, especially schools.

· Agricultural Labor. According to a UC publication (1998) 91. 5% of the farm and field labor in California is comprised of Hispanics. Most of the Hispanic workers are from Mexican origin and about 42% without residential status.

· New market opportunities and shifts. The wide variety of ethnicities, especially the growth of the Hispanic population, in the state also permits the development of new cropping systems that provide for their different culinary interests, keeping a captive market.

· Agricultural abundance (valued at $13 billion annually) threatened. A new study by the American Farmland Trust found that with California's population projected to nearly double by 2040 and the population of the state's agricultural heartland, the Central Valley projected to triple to 12 million, over 1 million acres – one in every seven – will be urbanized. Cornell University expert on agricultural ecology David Pimentel, finds that population growth is a major contributor to the 122,000 acres (3%) of cropland lost from production each year. If this trend continues, in less than 20 years about one-half of California's farmland will no longer be available for production.

· Higher than average immigrant fertility a growing contributor to population growth. While births to U. S. born women have remained close to the 1970 level of 324,375 for more than a decade, rising to just 334,008 in 1992, the total number of annual births in California has jumped from 362,652 to 600,838 – an increase largely attributable to immigrant women whose share of total births has quadrupled from 11% in 1970 to 44% in 1992.

· Human growth is squeezing out other life forms (negative environmental impact). In California one of every three vertebrate species and one in ten native plant species are in serious danger of extinction. Habitat the size of San Francisco is converted from natural vegetation or agricultural land to residential or commercial use every six months. 72% of California's native freshwater fish are listed as threatened or endangered, and are likely candidates for listing, or are already extinct. A study of storm water run-off flowing into Santa Monica Bay found that over 65,000 pounds of lead, 18,000 pounds of copper and a staggering 2,110,000 pounds of oil and grease are washed into the bay each year.

The state lists 34 species of animals and 46 species of plants as having been extirpated since the 1880s and the combined state and federal lists of rare, threatened or endangered plant and animal species in the state numbers 330, although state and federal officials admit that there are far more candidate species identified.

In the 1780’s with a population numbering in the hundreds of thousands, California had an estimated 5 million acres of wetlands. Now, after justtwo centuries of explosive population growth, there are over 32 million people and only about 454,000 acres of wetlands – a 90% loss.

Although California's "ecological footprint" spans the globe, key local resources such as water are insufficient for continued growth. Because of trade and pollution, the resources and environmental impacts of California's high-consumption lifestyles do not come from (or remain) strictly within the state's borders, i. e. the land area necessary to support California's population and absorb its wastes is much greater than the area of the state (its ecological footprint).

The average decline in the state's water table is an astounding 0. 5 to 3. 5 feet per year. Projected shortfalls of water needed by 2020 are estimated at 4. 2 million acre-feet in good rainfall years and nearly twice that in drought years. The state's top water officials admit that even if all practical conservation measures are carried out, rising demand in the coming decades will exceed supply by the amount of water needed to irrigate a million acres of crops or sustain a city of 800,000 people.

· California, immigrant welfare magnet. By 1990, California's welfare benefit package was second only to Alaska in its generosity. Between 1980 and 1990 the fraction of new immigrants not on welfare who chose to live in California actually dropped. However, the fraction of new immigrants on welfare who chose to reside in California sharply increased from 36. 9% to 45. 4 %.

· Educational system overwhelmed. The CA Department of Finance projects the student population to balloon from just over 5 million in 1992-93 to nearly 7 million in a decade, with two-thirds of the growth coming from immigration. The state would have to build a classroom every hour, and a 650-student school every day just to meet the increased enrollments.

California also ranks first in the number of students who speak little or no English, 1. 4 million or one of every four students. Nine of the top 15 school districts with the highest number of limited English proficiency students are in California: Santa Ana (69%), Glendale (52%), Los Angeles (46%), Garden Grove (43%), Fresno (32%), San Francisco (29%), San Diego (26%), Montebello (26%). More than two-thirds of students entering Cal State campuses in the Los Angeles area lack high school level math and English skills. At some high schools not a single graduate going on to Cal State schools passed the basic skill tests.

487 posted on 04/26/2005 6:47:15 PM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: Rebelbase
Isn't it kind of late to be approving of the Minutemen project? I thought you tagged the effort as a bunch of racists you didn't want FR to be affilated with. Or did you forget the sarcasm tag?

Very Good Point. I wondered, also.

488 posted on 04/26/2005 7:02:21 PM PDT by JLO
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To: Czar

I completely agree.


489 posted on 04/26/2005 7:25:16 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!)
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To: mvpel
Bush has presided over a 28% increase in non-defense discretionary spending, and a multi-billion dollar government giveaway in prescription drugs. Does that sound "conservative to you?" Does that sound like "rolling back government largesse?" Simple, factual critiques of Bush's record doesn't amount to "Mount Everest" as you put it, it's merely a defense of the principles of conservatism.

Rolling back spending is a principle of conservatism. So is accuracy and telling the truth.

Discretionary spending over the last 4 years if you subtract both DOD spending and new Homeland Defense Type spending is about equal to the rate of inflation plus population increase.

What you describe as "non-defense" leaves out Home Land Defense. The figure is not 28%.

490 posted on 04/26/2005 7:54:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: joesbucks
I suggest we ban everyone that doesn't agree 100%.

Here's another good idea. I suggest we dump all 55 Republican senators because we have 5 or 6 RINO's.

Right?

491 posted on 04/26/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JesseJane
good post.
Yes, some folks don't realize we don't have unlimited water infrastructure to handle unlimited immigration. There are building moratoriums on some communities even here in Oregon, because of summer water shortages...

Of course, the obl folks don't give a rip about the excessive burden on infrastructure...
492 posted on 04/26/2005 8:14:14 PM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: MineralMan
I doubt that many will post to this thread. Too bad.

Almost up to 500 posts now.

493 posted on 04/26/2005 9:03:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Jim Robinson

Hmm, interesting.. :-)


494 posted on 04/26/2005 9:19:45 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: JesseJane

Yes, that's all (s)he's got.

I very much hope this person is *not* allowed to become a citizen.


495 posted on 04/26/2005 9:26:32 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: FreeReign

USinfo.state.gov/US






North American "Union" Getting Closer

United States, Canada and Mexico
agree to a series of new cooperative measures.
The new agreement is called the
"Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America"






North American Leaders Unveil Security and Prosperity Partnership
Bush, Fox, Martin outline trilateral efforts during March 23 meeting


"President Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox announced the establishment of the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" in a March 23 joint statement. Convening that same day in Crawford, Texas, for a trilateral meeting, the North American leaders said the security and prosperity of their nations are "mutually dependent and complementary" and explained the impetus for the new initiative.

"In a rapidly changing world, we must develop new avenues of cooperation that will make our open societies safer and more secure, our businesses more competitive, and our economies more resilient," they said in their statement.


The leaders indicated that the North American partnership will work to achieve these ends and "is committed to reach the highest results to advance the security and well-being of our people."


As part of their efforts to protect North America from external threats, to prevent and respond to threats within North America, and to streamline legitimate cross-border trade and travel, the three countries will implement common border-security strategies, enhance infrastructure protection, implement a common approach to emergency response, implement improvements to aviation and maritime security, enhance intelligence partnerships, combat transnational threats, and implement a border-facilitation strategy.


To improve North American competitiveness and enhance the quality of life in the region, the partnership participants will pursue regulatory cooperation while maintaining high health and safety standards. The North American nations will also promote sectoral cooperation in energy, transportation, financial services, technology and other areas. Other initiatives include reducing the costs of trade and enhancing environmental stewardship.


To pursue the partnership mandate, ministerial-level working groups will be established to set specific, measurable, achievable goals and identify concrete steps toward these goals. Within 90 days, the ministers will issue initial reports. Thereafter, the groups will report semi-annually, the three leaders said in their statement.


Following is the text of the joint statement, as released by the White House:


THE WHITE HOUSE


Office of the Press Secretary (Crawford, Texas) March 23, 2005


Joint Statement by President Bush, President Fox, and Prime Minister Martin Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America


We, the elected leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States, gather in Texas to announce the establishment of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.


Over the past decade, our three nations have taken important steps to expand economic opportunity for our people and to create the most vibrant and dynamic trade relationship in the world. Since September 11, 2001, we have also taken significant new steps to address the threat of terrorism and to enhance the security of our people.


But more needs to be done. In a rapidly changing world, we


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496 posted on 04/26/2005 9:32:10 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: jveritas
I would like you full name and number so I can report you to the FBI for racism and intimidation.

Hey, stupid, as idiotic as racism is, it is not illegal. I don't know what kind of big brother thought police you had in the country that spawned you, but the FBI is not any kind of thought police. Laz was not racist against you - I'm sure he doesn't even know what "race" you think you belong to. However, even if he was - even if he called you the worst racial slur you can conjure - it is still not illegal in America.

As for intimidation, Laz is legally within his right to speak against your application for citizenship - as is anyone else who has any reason to believe that you do not deserve citizenship. That is not intimidation and it is not illegal.

Your behavior and comments on Free Republic are reason alone to question whether you have any understanding of our form of government here in the United States. Here, let me give you a test. This is a test I think everyone should have to pass before they can even vote.

1.) What is the difference between a Democracy and a Republic? Which form of government was established by the U.S. Constitution in 1787?

2.) What is the difference between a national government and a federal government? Which form of government was established by the U.S. Constitution in 1787?

3.) Every American Citizen possesses individual inalienable rights. From where do those rights originate? What are the roles of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights in regards to those rights?

4.) From where does the U.S. government derive its just power and authority? What legal methods can be used to expand that power and authority?

In my opinion, if you can't pass this test you should not be allowed U.S. citizenship nor be allowed to vote if you are (unfortunately) already a citizen.

You say you love American more than some of us here. If you can't pass this test, you don't even know what America is and therefore you can't actually love it.

Go for it. Let's see how you do.

497 posted on 04/26/2005 9:59:38 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: jveritas
I received my Green Card three years ago and I still have two more years to apply for citizenship.

Did you ever enter, live or work in the United States illegally?

498 posted on 04/26/2005 10:02:37 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: sdpatriot
Excellent post!
499 posted on 04/26/2005 11:17:05 PM PDT by D. Portem
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To: mvpel

Actually, it would only take an act by the House of Representatives.


500 posted on 04/27/2005 12:01:32 AM PDT by streetpreacher (God DOES exist; He's just not into you!)
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