Posted on 11/30/2004 3:53:55 PM PST by shubi
There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent, tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists.
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He should be praying that God doesn't get disgusted with him and ZOT!!! Don't you just love ignorance. It is a form of terrorism. Creationists are "science terrorists".
"They don't care. They want to share their "faith" with anyone who wants to join the effort to stop science teaching in our schools.
Oh, I understand too well what they are doing. What appalls me is their willingness to embrace Full Monty dishonesty in order to accomplish it. This latest case of plagiarism is but a trifle in the litany of bogus, manipulated, and out-of-context quotes used by anti-Evo/anti-science fanatics to misrepresent scientific thinking."
Their list of rhetorical tricks is unmatched. Sometimes, I even fail to see them. I have one guy on another thread that posted some kind of Science article talking about a mutation in Drosophila. I think he added a sentence to it at the end, to make it seem scientists are concerned about deleterious mutations in the population.
I keep trying to explain that if it is deleterious it won't be selected, so no worries. But he calls me stupid in various ways, thinking,I guess, the audience will think he is beating me in the debate.
That is why it is necessary to get fairly nasty with these
"Christians".
XS>
I
pray,
Abba, Father,
Creator of the universe,
send your Ruach haKodesh
to warm the heart of shubi
and remove the scales from his eyes
to your word as it is written.
I ask these things in the
Holy Name of Your Son
The Word of G-d:
Y’shua haMashiach
PP: Why is your religion any better than anyone elses?
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214 posted on 12/04/2004 8:27:03 PM MST by Pan Paniscus
I do not belong to any religion.
I am a follower of Y’shua haMaschiach, the Word of G-d.
Religions are man’s attempt to define god.
I am a broken vessel totally sold over to the Christ
I cover my sins with the blood of the Lamb
His willing bondslave
chuck
f-dot lives!
"I
am
Jack's
raging
bile
duct."
f-dot lives! placemarker
Yeah, yeah-its a fraud. And it ain't biology.
enough of your sudo science
If evolution was true there would be no monkeys cuz they woulda all turned into people by now.
See? I dont even have school grade but i has unproved all the evolution by thinking outside the box.
In several cases we have found creationists who it was difficult to tell if they were monkeys or not.
Yes we know about those "sciences". And surely those "sciences" have plausible explanations for how water runs thousands of feet uphill to form the Grand Canyon and the presence of aquatic fossils on tall mountain peaks far from any body of water. (sigh)
Records from many other cultures that predate the supposed deluge show no evidence of such happening.
Of course the presence of so many records from diverse cultures around the globe claiming a massive flood (global or superregional) at about the same time in history doesn't raise any red flags - must be coincidence. Why is it do the God haters always believe the records of other cultures and always reject the Scriptural account? Is it because the Jewish Torah is by orders of magnitude the best honored and faithfully preserved document in all of world history?
The fact that the Noah story was written around 600BCE
So you one of the dozen or so people who believe that. And I have this great ocean front property in Arizona.
Both Babylonian and Sumerian myths which predate the noachian flood tell pretty much the same story, indicating that the story of Noah was borrowed by the Biblical authors, with appropriate changes of course, and used as a fable.
Let's see your reasoning here. You gratuitously presuppose that the Genesis narratives were written after a certain convenient date, then you declare by fiat that the unknown author of Genesis looted these ideas from Babylonians and Sumerians. Then you just happen to know that these stories are fables. And, we can't also forget that the prevalence of this theme being kept around by so many different cultures is clear proof that it never happened. (Using the Up is Down and Cold is Wet hermeneutic)
The technology of the time could not have successfully accomplished what Noah was credited with.
Oh, now you happen to have a garage filled with technology of that era.
Hey, if you hate God and wish to think that you are nothing more than an accident of Chance, go right ahead. You are nothing but an deterministic animal. Your thoughts are nothing but chemical reactions. If you had a pizza for lunch, then your thoughts are based on whatever toppings you ordered.
If you are stupid enough to feel that you can pass off this anti-Semitic garbage as fact, then more power to you and your fellow travellers. I don't care to waste any more time with bigoted racists and Christophobes.
XS>His willing bondslave
chuck
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PP: You are truly one confused human being. Well, welcome to the monkey-house.
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228 posted on 12/05/2004 1:17:14 PM MST by Pan Paniscus
I am truly sorry you are lost and confused.
I pray one day you find and accept the creator of the universe.
Bondslave to the Christ
chuck
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