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Dozens Of Chechen terrorists Entered USA from Mexico
drudge ^ | 10/12/04

Posted on 10/12/2004 8:42:25 PM PDT by knak

up on drudge:

WASH TIMES: U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico... Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona, Gertz to report in Pgae One Splash, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; borders; bushamnesty; chechen; chechens; chechenterrorists; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; napalminthemorning; tancredo; terrorists; wot
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To: Laurita

Finally, if a ball has been dropped, it's a bipartisan ball, we haven't had a REAL push for our security since President Reagan's Star-Wars project. Short of lining up on every border and shore with white civil defense helmets and high-powered hunting rifles, what should we ACTUALLY do about this?

278 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:46 AM EDT by Laurita"

The very first thing we need to do is admit that our "open" and "multicultural" society is not a safe, workable concept. Women and children are being raped in increasing numbers by other races. It was bad enough when it was men of their own race but at least the will to execute rapists hadn't been lost yet. Now all manner of excuses are made for rapists and none receive the death penalty.


641 posted on 10/13/2004 9:33:02 AM PDT by millefleur
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To: Monterrosa-24
So the plan is that we cheer Bush on through November 2nd and after that we cry foul over the immigration issue?

It's hard to cheer on a President that is so wrong and out of step with most Americans on this important issue. Now we hear 25 Beslan-type terrorists are among us, ready to kill our kids. The Administration's immigration policy may have not been popular before, but now it is evident that the policy is completely unacceptable in today's world. But where else can we turn? Not f-up Kerry.
642 posted on 10/13/2004 9:34:15 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: knak

This is no problem. We are a nation built on 'Diversity' and should be able to absorb them.


644 posted on 10/13/2004 9:36:32 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: masher
To seal it airtight, surely. However, even $1B would buy us a sensor network and enough surveillance and patrolling to stop 98% of it.

You'd need a lot more than a billion, unless you intend to simply allow the illegals to pilfer the sensors for resale back in Mexico...

645 posted on 10/13/2004 9:38:14 AM PDT by Poohbah (SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER...SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER)
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To: millefleur

"...The very first thing we need to do is admit that our "open" and "multicultural" society is not a safe..."

You noticed too.

The liberals love the peaceful Balkans so much that they are quickly inplementing an even greater diversity here.


646 posted on 10/13/2004 9:39:29 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: asgardshill
Then go after them, with my blessing. I have no objection to making the penalties for knowingly hiring illegals a lot stronger than they are now.

The penalties can now tehnically be up to $10,000 per illegal. However, every time the Feds raid a meatpacker, construction company or retail chain, the CEO of that company goes crying to their Congressman (whether Republican or Democrat) and the Congressman makes the raids stop.

The supply of illegals will never go down unless the demand for their labor decreases.

647 posted on 10/13/2004 9:43:31 AM PDT by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: Modernman
The penalties can now tehnically be up to $10,000 per illegal. However, every time the Feds raid a meatpacker, construction company or retail chain, the CEO of that company goes crying to their Congressman (whether Republican or Democrat) and the Congressman makes the raids stop.

There's another problem: juries have refused to convict, even with very solid evidence.

648 posted on 10/13/2004 9:44:40 AM PDT by Poohbah (SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER...SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER)
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To: rennatdm

A ploy for the debate, huh? Yeah and the threat has been exagerrated. In case you hadn't heard, this report has been confirmed by multiple sources.


649 posted on 10/13/2004 9:45:11 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thanks, I lived in Tempe for many years and now live just outside of Tempe. Tonights security was a big concern of mine after reading the article about the Chechen terrorists crossing.


650 posted on 10/13/2004 9:45:12 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Types_with_Fist

Do you know who leaked it?


651 posted on 10/13/2004 9:45:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: dougherty
Yes, we could. The people that are dismissing border security and saying it cannot be done would be singing an entirely different tune over this invasion if it was happening under a Dem president.

The only reason they are saying this is because they're candidate/candidates have done little or nothing to stop this epic coast to coast lawlessness.

As a matter of fact, they're candidates more then likely are aiding and abetting and pandering to this lawlessness, and have absolutely no desire to end it. Like the greedy employers that hire these criminals, as they sit in their back offices counting their profits on the backs of the tax payers. They too have no desire to reduce their profits.

652 posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:23 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: masher
Use your head instead.

My head tells me our border policy is not working. My head tells me it is our porous borders that allow these types to sneak in and do us harm. My head tells me we are going to be sorry for not better securing our borders.
653 posted on 10/13/2004 9:49:22 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: roses of sharon
Do you know who leaked it?

No. But, since it is the Bush Administration in charge and a conservative paper I'd guess a ... conservative in office? At any rate, I doubt the Washington Times would willingly help along a leftist conspiracy. Perhaps Gertz is trying to warn us about a real danger.

654 posted on 10/13/2004 9:49:27 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

A lame duck Pres, and a Republican house and Senate.

Or a victorious Kerry/UN/Soros Presidency, with victorious NY elite media, who will believe that the public is with them regardless of their admitting to being DNC political organizations, VS a Republican congress and Senate.


655 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:25 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Poohbah
There's another problem: juries have refused to convict, even with very solid evidence.

The dirty little secret is that Americans have pretty much accepted illegals because they like the short-term benefits- cheap maid, nanny, construction and landscaping services, as well as cheaper produce and meat.

You can find legal nannies- a friend of my mom's runs a nanny service where she goes out of her way to make sure the nannies she hires are legal. However, these nannies cost more and only really rich people hire them.

If the American people really wanted to get rid of the demand for illegal labor, they could do so.

656 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:07 AM PDT by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

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This had better be an incorrect report, or one due to be quickly followed by headlines announcing the Chechens' arrest. This has been my biggest fear: If something of the sort results in an attack, especially a Beslan-style atrocity, it will cost Bush the election."

I have similar fears, and have expressed them. All it will take is a terrorist attack with the terrorists crossing our weak borders, and the name of George W. Bush will be reviled forever.

I hope they arrest them, quick.


657 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:33 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We wouldn't be in this mess if people all over the world had joined in and started a love train.)
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To: fourscore

I agree we can and should do both. But we aren't. We are always told we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here. Well, they're here and they shouldn't be.


658 posted on 10/13/2004 10:00:40 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: knak

I've been pounding away on the wrong thread all day...lol


659 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:45 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Of course Gertz will report it, he is a reporter.

The leaker said he got info from intel source in Aug or Sept, and 2nd US official is investigating, and does not know if report is true, US Border Patrol and Homeland sec can not verify claim.

Yes, I would say it was planned to leak now.

I for one don't mind being on the look out, I like warnings about terrorists.

But I don't like being warned against Bush, as if Kerry would close borders.


660 posted on 10/13/2004 10:04:05 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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