Posted on 10/12/2004 8:42:25 PM PDT by knak
up on drudge:
WASH TIMES: U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico... Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona, Gertz to report in Pgae One Splash, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE...
Satire, sarcasm, certainly. The border situation is beyond any failure one accepts of the bureaucracy. Someone will be killed. Oh, wait many Americans are already being killed by these immigrants. Doesn't seem to be an issue with Pres. Bush. Apparently, it is just fine because these folks will pick a little lettuce. Are you doing the law obeying thing? Sucker. Borders are wide-open. Come on in!
The first one to go will be Asa Hutchinson....Asleep on the Job.
Yep, time for some practice. This is not good.
This supposedly happened before the debates were even negotiated, so I dont think that would be the target they had in mind.
Chechen terrorists probed
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July.
The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports.
Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
The intelligence report was supplied to the U.S. government in late August or early September and was based on information from an intelligence source that has been proved reliable in other instances, one official said.
A second U.S. official said the report is being investigated, but said it could not be determined whether the group of Chechens actually entered the country, as the intelligence source reported.
"We don't know whether or not that report is true," this official said.
A spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed that the intelligence report was provided by another government agency, but said Border Patrol agents were unable to verify its accuracy.
It could not be learned whether the reported infiltration is related to the recent Education Department warning to school officials to examine security in the aftermath of the attack last month by pro-Chechnya Muslim terrorists on a school in Russia, in which more than 300 people were killed and some 700 wounded.
In the Russian attack, heavily armed Islamists took over and wired with explosives the school building in Beslan, North Ossetia. It is believed that an accidental explosion set off a battle between Russian security personnel and the terrorists, who set off several explosions and shot schoolchildren and teachers as they tried to escape.
U.S. officials believe the Beslan terrorists included some al Qaeda-linked foreign terrorists.
The Education Department letter said that school officials should examine "protective measure guidance" for helping to prevent and respond to a similar terrorist attack, were it to occur in the United States.
The notice said the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are "currently unaware of any specific, credible information indicating a terrorist threat to public and private schools, universities or colleges in the United States."
The letter stated that indicators of terrorist surveillance before an attack include interest in site plans for schools, bus routes and attendance lists from persons who don't normally request such information.
Authorities also were advised to remain alert for "static surveillance" by people who may be disguised as panhandlers, shoeshiners, newspaper or flower vendors, or street sweepers who seem out of place in a particular area.
Other indicators of terrorist surveillance can include spying on school security drills, people staring at employees or vehicles in parking areas, and surveillance by pedestrians.
Fears of an attack on American schools also were raised by the recent discovery in Iraq of a computer disk containing data showing the layout of six schools in the United States, including districts in California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey and Oregon.
Officials believed the disk may have been part of a terrorist plot. However, FBI officials said on Friday that there did not appear to be a terrorist threat connected to the computer disk.
The Iraqi who had the disk, a member of Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party, apparently was collecting information from the Internet sites of American schools that would be useful for emergency planning for Iraqi schools, U.S. officials said.
U.S. security officials have been concerned in recent months that al Qaeda or other terrorists are planning to enter the United States from Mexico.
Intelligence officials said a suspected al Qaeda leader who has been in the United States was spotted recently in Mexico. Officials believe Adnan Shukrijumah, whom the FBI wants for questioning, met with alien smugglers in Mexico and Honduras and was seeking ways to bring al Qaeda members into the United States. Shukrijumah was seen in August in the Sonora province of northern Mexico, officials said.
Since October 2003, authorities have arrested five Arabs attempting to cross illegally into the United States from Mexico.
In July, officials dismissed as untrue an Internet report that said a group of Middle Eastern men were recently caught trying to cross the border from Mexico.
The report apparently was based on a group of Oaxacan tribesmen who were stopped as they tried to cross the border in Arizona. The tribesmen spoke an Indian language native to southern Mexico that may have been mistaken for Arabic, officials said at the time.
I propose a 1/4 mile wide tar pit the whole lenght of the border!!!
I've driven through the border areas of Arizona and that is really hot, desolate country. I strongly doubt that millions of people are passing through their every year. That's a myth created by sensationalists like Drudge. There's no place for them all to stay in that area while walking through and it's incredibly hot in the Spring and Summer. Illegal immigration is happening mostly through people overstaying visas. It's not that easy to stop, but I agree that we have to do something.
[Anti Edwards sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]
Are you referring to the ambulance chaser who got rich suing doctors over cerebral palsy, or the hack TV host of "Crossing Over" fame?
Funny how you never see the two of them in a room together...
Actually, the walk over, stay in safe houses in Tucson and other towns (hundreds in a house) and are driven north by white teens paid with crystal meth.
>>>I strongly doubt that millions of people are passing through their every year.
Well, I'll give you credit for at least coming up with something original. Of course, I'm not sure all those folks along the coast in Malibu CA are going to appreciate a tar canal in their beach, but I've never really cared about what they appreciate anyway.
Place marker.
Should be easy to find them... Check Democrat voter registrants.
Lets see, we have literally *millions* from God knows where pouring across our borders, unabated, creating epic fraud, coast to coast crime, corruption, choking off our social services, hospitals, jails, jobs. This will cause the inevitable, complete undermining of our elections, by 2014. This titanic lawlessness will eventually destroy our sovereignty, and our country, leading to complete chaos. This is ever bit as dangerous as *any* terrorist, my friend.
Not true. People of the Caucasus Mountains are mostly of Mongolian descent.
You need a hi-cap mag for that.
"This is why our anti-terror strategy must and does rely on going on the offensive against known terrorist groups outside our borders."
That's true, but I think we're missing a bet by not training and arming citizen militias. If every solid citizen had a .45 in a shoulder holster and an M-4 in the trunk, it would be a lot harder for terrorists to get something going.
Apprehensions in my county alone were 235,379 for FY 2004. About 5% of that number were not Mexican. The Border Patrol agents here openly claim they catch maybe one in five. That's some way ugly numbers.
A couple of months back, two of my buds from American Border Patrol repeatedly smuggled a simulated backpack nuke from Mexico through one of the most heavily patrolled areas of the border. Both could be dropped into that photo full of Chechens and blend right in. Every time they did it, they were dressed in paramilitary fashion. They were spotted on a couple of occasions, but never caught. They managed to pass through the primary enforcement area with little trouble, and on their last attempt delivered the suitcase boomer to the Federal Building in downtown Tucson. The security guards objected to their camera work, but never asked for ID or checked out their "luggage".
Folks, it seems like all we can do at this point is pray nothing happens before elections, Bush is elected, e-mail congresspersons and ask for real border control when they get back in session, and then pay attention and follow up.
There is no way that a Kerry Administration would do any thing - he is for amnesty!
Fences and walls aren't more complicated then a moonshot. If we had started on 9-12-01 it might have even been done by now.
"We have 22,000 miles of border. Unless you want to put every able bodied person in America into the border patrol, it ain't going to happen."
A couple points here.
First...not all 22,000 miles of border is equally accessable, particularly on foot by men transporting arms and /or WMD. You allocate your resources based on the probability or interdiction at any given point.
Second..this all comes down to probabilities, nobody is saying a complete sealdown...0% breakthrough..thats not achievable by any system.
Third, you are not considering the use of state of the art technology, supplanted by troops where needed. I have worked on satellite programs that I cant talk about...there are things we can do that you may not be aware of. Its just a matter of allocating resources...money...hardware, etc.
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