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  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/21/2018 4:07:17 AM PST · 59 of 74
    daniel1212 to metmom
    Do you always make such leaps of illogic?

    Well, some can reason that if you do not subscribe to exaltation of the Mary of Catholicism far far far above that which is written, but reprove this, then you must "hate" Mary.

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/21/2018 4:03:51 AM PST · 58 of 74
    daniel1212 to af_vet_1981
    Despite the prevalence of the Bible translated into the vernacular the Christian faith continues to decline ... Having the Bible in the hands of the people did not make them more Christian as a nation, or at least not sustainably. This experiment already occurred in Europe so that it is not a recent generation or two

    What an absurd argument in order to impugn the power of Scripture. For this to be valid then you would have to show that the prevalence of the Bible translated into the vernacular has not historically correlated to an increase in the Christian faith, which it has, and is in places like Africa (see above post by God's grace). And that those who esteem Scripture most strongly suffer the greatest decline, which is contrary to reality. And "sustainably" must be defined as only beyond 200 years.

    Meanwhile, to support your alternative, you must show that the current decline in Christian faith in countries in which the Bible has been translated into the vernacular is in contrast to Catholicism, but which it has not, such as in Latin America . And despite immigration from there into the US, .

    A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds that the total number of Catholics in the United States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of the total population.

    And perhaps more troubling for the church, for every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism loses more members than it gains at a higher rate than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent of all Americans describing themselves as “former Catholics.”

    The big winner in terms of growing numbers is the unaffiliated, or the so-called “nones,” shooting up to about 23 percent of the total population from just 16 percent seven years ago. The 56 million adults not belonging to any faith tradition outnumber both Catholics and mainline Protestants; only Evangelical Christians comprise a larger share of the population.

    Big demographic shifts within Catholicism continue to change the face of the church. Hispanic Catholics now comprise 41 percent of the US church, up 6 points from 2007. And the average Catholic is getting a bit older, with the median age of 49 up four years. Immigration from Latin American countries has kept Catholic number stable in recent years, and 39 percent of American immigrants are Catholic. -https://cruxnow.com/church/2015/05/12/pew-survey-percentage-of-us-catholics-drops-and-catholicism-is-losing-members-faster-than-any-denomination/

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/21/2018 3:44:27 AM PST · 56 of 74
    daniel1212 to crusty old prospector
    Title is a bit misleading.

    Gallup is far too sparse with details, but references a Pew study:

    To be sure, the United States remains home to more Christians than any other country in the world, and a large majority of Americans – roughly seven-in-ten – continue to identify with some branch of the Christian faith.1

    But the major new survey of more than 35,000 Americans by the Pew Research Center finds that the percentage of adults (ages 18 and older) who describe themselves as Christians has dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years, from 78.4% in an equally massive Pew Research survey in 2007 to 70.6% in 2014. Over the same period, the percentage of Americans who are religiously unaffiliated – describing themselves as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular” – has jumped more than six points, from 16.1% to 22.8%. And the share of Americans who identify with non-Christian faiths also has inched up, rising 1.2 percentage points, from 4.7% in 2007 to 5.9% in 2014. Growth has been especially great among Muslims and Hindus, albeit from a very low base. - America’s Changing Religious Landscape

    Also If current trends continue, by 2050 …

    • The number of Muslims will nearly equal the number of Christians around the world.
    • Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
    • The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.
    • In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.
    • India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.
    • In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.
    • Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa. - The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/21/2018 3:44:10 AM PST · 55 of 74
    daniel1212 to Mom MD
    You are wrong about the LCMS. It is a very biblically sound denomination. It may be losing members, but departure from sound doctrine is not the reason.

    I was just reporting what the source says, and which analysis speaks in an overall sense.

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/20/2018 10:33:05 PM PST · 46 of 74
    daniel1212 to napscoordinator
    Hopefully Catholic.

    Hopefully not, but NT Christian .

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/20/2018 10:32:05 PM PST · 45 of 74
    daniel1212 to Salvation
    Slanted report — no Catholics mentioned in it.

    Having eyes they see not, like Catholic graven images.

    The numbers from the Gallup survey align with numbers derived from a Pew Research Center survey published in 2015. That survey indicated that from 2007 to 2014, Protestants had dropped from 51.3 percent of the population to 46.5 percent. At the same time, according to that Pew survey, Catholics dropped from 23.9 percent of the population to 20.8 percent.

    “Americans continue to be geographically segregated by religion,” said Gallup in its analysis. “Protestants dominate in the South, while Catholics are most common in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic, with some representation in the Midwest. Americans with no formal religious identity are most likely to be found in the West and in New England. Two smaller religious groups are also geographically concentrated: Mormons are a major population factor in Utah and Idaho, and Jews tend to be disproportionately located on the East Coast.” https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/gallup-majority-americans-are-not-protestants

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/20/2018 10:29:32 PM PST · 44 of 74
    daniel1212 to Salvation
    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/factchecker-are-all-christian-denominations-in-decline/

    Here are the primary mainline denominations, every one of which has seen long-term decline in membership:

    Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

    In 1965, the CC(DoC) had 1,918,471 members. In 2012, the membership was 625,252, a decline of 67 percent.

    Reformed Church in America

    In 1967, the RCA had 384,751 members. In 2014, the membership was 145,466, a decline of 62 percent.

    United Church of Christ (Congregationalist)

    In 1965, the UCC had 2,070,413 members. In 2012, there were 998,906 members, a decline of 52 percent.

    Episcopal Church

    In 1966, the TEC had 3,647,297 members. By 2013, the membership was 1,866,758, a decline of 49 percent.

    (Those numbers should be even lower, though, since those figures by the TEC include breakaway churches trying to leave the denomination.)

    Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) (PCUSA)

    In 1967, the PC(USA) had 3,304,321 members. In 2013, the membership was 1,760,200, a decline of 47 percent.

    United Methodist Church (UMC)

    In 1967, the UMC had 11,026,976 members. In 2012, the membership was 7,391,911, a decline of 33 percent.

    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)

    In 1987, the ECLA had 5,288,230 members. In 2013, the membership was 3,863,133, a decline of 27 percent.

    (Note: The ELCA was formally constituted in 1988 as a merger of the Lutheran Church in America, the Association of Evangelical Lutheran Churches and the American Lutheran Church.)

    American Baptist Churches

    In 1967, the ABC/USA had 1,335,342 members. In 2012, the membership was 1,308,054, a decline of 2 percent.  

    (Note: The ABC/USA has been able to stem its decline among white congregants by replacing them with African American and Hispanic members.)

    Now let’s look at a few of the primary non-mainline denominations, almost every one of which has increased in membership since the mid-1960s. 

    Church of God in Christ

    In 1965, the CoG had 425,000 members. In 2012, the membership was 5,499,875, an increase of 1,194 percent.

    Presbyterian Church in America

    In 1973, the PCA had 41,232 members. In 2013, the membership was 367,033, an increase of 790 percent.

    (Note: The Presbyterian Church in America was founded in 1974 by conservative members of the Presbyterian Church in the United States who rejected that church's merger with the United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A.)

    Evangelical Free Church of America

    In 1965, the EFCA had 43,851 members. In 2013, the membership was 372,321 , an increase of 749 percent.

    Assemblies of God

    In 1965, the AoG had 572,123 members. In 2013, the membership was 3,030,944, an increase of 430 percent.

    African Methodist Episcopal Church

    In 1951, the AME had 1,166,301 members. In 2012, the membership was 2,500,000, an increase of 114 percent.

    Southern Baptist Convention

    In 1965, the SBC had 10,770,573 members. In 2013, the membership was 15,735,640, an increase of 46 percent.

    Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod  

    In 1965, the LCMS had 2,692,889 members. In 2012, the membership was 2,163,698, a decline of 20 percent.

    The mainline churches are finding that as they move further away from Biblical Christianity, the closer they get to their inevitable demise.

    Joe Carter is an editor for The Gospel Coalition

  • Gallup: Majority of Americans Are Not Protestants

    02/20/2018 10:29:25 PM PST · 43 of 74
    daniel1212 to Salvation
    The Catholic Church was founded by Christ on the Apostles, the first Bishops.

    Wrong: it is a false church with some true teachings, and the largest deformation of the NT church , as has often been substantively established here, and with a relative few born again believers .

    Are you saying that you don’t believe in Jesus Christ, fully human and fully God?

    That is a specious argument, typical of your sophistry, since believing this and other core Truth evangelicals contend for simply does not mean one is RC, any more than agreeing with Truths that Orthodox Judaism believes in means one is part of that group.

  • Russian Orthodoxy Losing Out to Protestantism in Muslim North Caucasus

    02/20/2018 10:05:31 PM PST · 10 of 12
    daniel1212 to GoldenState_Rose; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; ...
    Because they are more active in proselytizing, Protestants have been able to gain new adherents more quickly despite the Orthodox Church’s reliance on the state’s declaration of some as “foreign agents” or extremists.” Indeed, Gereyev says, the focus on Islamist extremism means that most of the time Protestants can function without attracting official attention.

    Meaning the evangelicals must obey God rather than men, as the NT church did in Acts. And "as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. "(Galatians 4:29) And that, as usual, a remnant will be saved. May God bless their efforts and increase our tribe, and gather many out of false and dead religion, including Catholicism

  • Scoop: Skirmish in Beijing over the nuclear football (when Trump was in Beijing)

    02/20/2018 6:32:55 AM PST · 23 of 26
    daniel1212 to daniel1212

    That should have been “see above” (the Russians hacked my previous response).

  • Scoop: Skirmish in Beijing over the nuclear football (when Trump was in Beijing)

    02/20/2018 6:31:23 AM PST · 22 of 26
    daniel1212 to varyouga

    See below

  • Scoop: Skirmish in Beijing over the nuclear football (when Trump was in Beijing)

    02/20/2018 6:29:25 AM PST · 21 of 26
    daniel1212 to cba123

    Another little issue that was not known for a “while:”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/why-clintons-losing-the-nuclear-biscuit-was-really-really-bad/65009/

    Former President Clinton’s office declined to comment today on reports that he managed to lose the personal identification code needed to confirm nuclear launches and never told anyone about it...

    A former military officer with knowledge of NCA procedures helps fill in some of the details.

    Let’s say that the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) detects an inbound air warning; the NMCC immediately calls the Sit Room or the military aide, which plugs in the President, who then provides an alpha-numeric code to verify his identity. Once verified, the President can (to invoke ICBM language) execute or terminate sorties. The military aide—known as the Milaide—goes everywhere with the President. Even when the President travels in a hotel elevator, the Milaide (and the president’s doctor) accompany him. (Yes, every POTUS elevator trip is monitored.)

    So what happens if the President doesn’t have his identifier?

    The commander in chief of NORAD resorts to the next person the NCA list, the Vice President....

    Fill in the the blanks here_____

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/20/2018 5:08:10 AM PST · 81 of 81
    daniel1212 to Ace's Dad
    Indeed, sex appeal is the main reason, just as NFL cheerleading, and which is part of the degeneration of the sport. A women's sexual beauty - and it is beauty and a testimony to special creation - should be for husband to behold and has compliment on her one, though with a love that transcends the physical, and is not for public consumption.

    You won't find many here that will accept that premise.

    And that moral reform is more important than fiscal, and that foul language should be avoided, all of which opposition is paradoxical, since both are contrary to the restoration of the Republic conservatism seeks. Many are mere libertarians, which presupposes men are controlled from within rather than from without, avoiding evil and doing good, but without strength of conscience and culture that is not possible, while Scripture needs to be the standard for determining what is morally good or evil, preventing then moral anarchy

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/19/2018 10:51:51 AM PST · 71 of 81
    daniel1212 to Henry Hnyellar
    [QUOTE] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#660000][I]The sport has been degenerating for a long time. The Baltimore Colts had cheerleaders in the 1950s.[/COLOR] [/i][/FONT][/QUOTE]

    The Baltimore police dept. must be wishing for some cheerleading now.

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/19/2018 6:57:30 AM PST · 40 of 81
    daniel1212 to C19fan
    Today, the ISU’s official handbook says only that competitors in ladies’ singles must wear something “modest, dignified, and appropriate for athletic competition” and rules out that which is “garish,” “theatrical,” or gives “the effect of excessive nudity inappropriate for the discipline.”

    Nothing subjective here!:non: 

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/19/2018 6:51:31 AM PST · 38 of 81
    daniel1212 to daniel1212

    My post certainly needed proof reading. My apologies.

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/19/2018 6:48:27 AM PST · 36 of 81
    daniel1212 to dartuser
    A more relevant question is what year will the Olympics allow men to wear skirts and be paired with other men for mixed skating .. A more relevant question is what year will the Olympics allow men to wear skirts and be paired with other men for mixed skating ..

    May it be never, but even at present, I do not think the Olympic "gods" would dare disallow it.

  • Why Don't More Female Figure Skaters Wear Pants?

    02/19/2018 6:44:45 AM PST · 34 of 81
    daniel1212 to sphinx; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
    Once upon a time it was a matter of cultural expectations. Today, it's a matter of television ratings. Women's sports have always walked a fine line between selling athletics vs. selling sex appeal. The women invariably want to be recognized for their athletic abilities and competitive spirit. But they also want to be paid as well as the men, they know that depends on viewership, and that in turn leads to deferring to the reality that large numbers of men will tune in to watch pretty girls in skimpy outfits

    Indeed, sex appeal is the main reason, just as NFL cheerleading, and which is part of the degeneration of the sport. A women's sexual beauty - and it is beauty and a testimony to special creation - should be for husband to behold and has compliment on her one, though with a love that transcends the physical, and is not for public consumption.

    A women of beauty who seeks to attention by baring most of her body cheapens herself, and the "fish" she catches with this "bait" likely will be those who value the superficial and transitory.

    God Himself only reveals His glory to those who have entered into covenant with Him, while the basic beauty of His revelation invites seekers to see beyond the veil by entering into this covenant. And which seeking prepares the heart for proper receiving.

    This does not mean a tent, but the Godly counsel of "dress in such a way that the first thing a man looks at is your face," corresponds to the Biblical admonition, "that women adorn themselves in modest apparel..." (1 Timothy 2:9)

  • Trump’s new food-stamps plan: A basket of U.S. food, direct to your doorstep

    02/13/2018 7:18:33 PM PST · 109 of 109
    daniel1212 to Jeff Chandler
    Wow, that's quite a monthly income!

    About 1,000 per month for a single person. Which with few studio apt. being under $ 700, plus utilities around here likely means that most poor with a income of 12,000 have another source, welfare and or share.

  • ‘I’m Just More Afraid of Climate Change Than I Am of Prison’

    02/13/2018 3:18:49 PM PST · 71 of 74
    daniel1212 to Cen-Tejas; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
    ...........well, I guess I admire a guy willing to go to prison for 26 years for turning a valve to stop oil flow but I sure question his sanity?

    Actually the man acts like a brainwashed religious cultist, with his own life, and all that he say or does or does not determined by how he thinks (based on sky-is-falling liberals), it will affect the Climate and ecology, as if it were God. If only we Christians were as committed to Christ and His cause.

    His older child, now a cleareyed 16-year-old, says that both siblings were initially happy to participate — in part because it gave them a chance to spend time with their father, whom they saw less and less of as his activism increased. But before long, they felt pressured. “When we would try to refuse, when we would say, ‘Hey, I’m tired,’ or ‘Hey, I have homework,’ or ‘Hey, I have school today,’ it would be: ‘Don’t you care about the planet? Don’t you care about the future?’ ” the older child explains. “That felt awful, because of course we cared, of course we wanted to do our part. But it felt like he was using our voices to spread his message.”

    . “Everything I do and don’t do today, to pollute or stop polluting, changes what lives and dies on the planet for the next 300 years — in a very specific, particular way,” he told me. “I can’t let myself off the hook.” He couldn’t let his family off the hook either, and resentments deepened. “When people asked me how things were going, how I was doing, I’d say, ‘He’s doing important stuff, and it matters,’ ” says his ex-wife, Malinda, who asked that her last name and her children’s names not be used to protect her family’s privacy. “I’d also say, ‘I really respect Gandhi, but I wouldn’t want to be married to him.’ ”

    Both Malinda and her older child say they felt constantly judged, and frustrated, by Foster’s inflexibility. In 2014, Malinda filed for divorce, and his children said they no longer wanted to be part of his activism — or part of his life.

    Malinda says the emotional scars Foster left are profound. “I think he believes he is doing what’s right, and he would be the first to say he’s doing this to protect his kids,” Malinda told me. “What’s tragic is that he’s traumatizing his kids’ present, and what good is the kids’ future without their present?”

    While low-carbon living affords him some peace of mind, he can’t entirely eliminate his own impact on the climate, and he sometimes stands in the grocery store, wondering what he can possibly justify eating. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/magazine/afraid-climate-change-prison-valve-turners-global-warming.html