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  • How to Think About Vladimir Putin (really excellent)

    11/24/2017 6:11:15 PM PST · 93 of 93
    daniel1212 to sasportas
    I have read your posts off and on for several years now, Daniel, but can’t remember you posting anything about your millennial view, whether you are Pre, A, or Post millennial

    I usually to do not get into debatable peripherals, but

    I myself also see the “rapture”- which term is derived from the text of the Latin Vulgate of 1 Thess. 4:17—”we will be caught up,” [Latin: rapiemur]) - as being the first resurrection, (Rv. 20:5,6) which is only for the saved, “the resurrection of life, (Jn. 5:29a), the “resurrection of the just,” on the “day of the Lord, in which all the bodies of believers will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air at the ends of the Great Trib., and go on with Him to the battle of Armageddon.

    “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. “ (1 Thessalonians 4:14)

    “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. “ (1 Thessalonians 4:17)

    “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. “ (Jude 14-15)

    Those who effectually believe on the Lord Jesus now have eternal life life, and if they die in the Lord they shall go to be with the Lord, (2Cor. 5:6-8; Phil. 1:23; 1Thes. 4:17) but their rewards or loss thereof are not given out until that “day of the Lord.”

    Believers will be rewarded for their good works, (Lk. 14:14; cf. 1Cor. 4:5; Acts 24:15) in distinction to “the resurrection of damnation” (Jn. 5:29b) which evidently occurs 1,000 years after, (Rv. 20:5) and in which believers will be part of the jury in the judgement of men and angels.

    “Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. “ (1 Corinthians 3:13)

    “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, “ (2 Thessalonians 2:1)

    And on that “day” every believer shall “receive his own reward according to his own labour,” (1Cor. 3::8) including suffering loss of rewards:

    “Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. “ (1 Corinthians 4:5)

    And will sit with Him in judgment of men and of angels:

    “Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? “ (1 Corinthians 6:3)

    Those who die in their sins shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth upon them, yet their exact degree of punishment is not meted out until the Great White Throne judgment.

    The “great and notable day of the Lord” ‘ Acts 2:20) culminates in the Great White Throne judgment in which the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire, (Rv. 20:11-5) with their degree of punishment being determined in accordance with how much light and grace was given. (Lk. 10:12-13; 12:47,48)

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/24/2017 6:06:45 PM PST · 189 of 193
    daniel1212 to Luircin
    So what I believe can be found in the Augsburg Confession. It’s not transubstantiation. But I still believe that it’s the literal body and blood of Jesus, even if we don’t know HOW it happens. And the power doesn’t lie in any priest or any celebrant, but in the Word of God.

    Well, it cannot be the literal body and blood of Jesus, which was manifestly physical, and John condemn those who make Him the "Christ come in the flesh" into one without a manifest physicality.

    That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) (1 John 1:1-2)

    This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. (1 John 5:6)

    Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: (1 John 4:2)

    even if we don’t know HOW it happens.

    Unlike the incarnation, there is nothing manifest that shows it does happen, nor is there any need to say to does.

    And the power doesn’t lie in any priest or any celebrant, but in the Word of God.

    Or the consumption being the means of obtaining spiritual life I assume. But I will not damn you for your view, while for many Caths the wafer and wine is right up there with their Mary as needful for salvation and not believing this is damnable.

  • How to Think About Vladimir Putin (really excellent)

    11/24/2017 5:55:56 PM PST · 92 of 93
    daniel1212 to GoldenState_Rose
    This is the short version. I am of the belief that Putin will not go down in history well. And once his regime crumbles, Russians will have to undergo the process of psychological de-Putinization as well the long-overdue postponed de-Sovitezation, and even de-imperialization from the toxic time of the tsars.

    Thanks for the objective report, our FR reporter. The danger with the post-Putin problem is that of being condoned to think a "fatherland" fascist would be the answer.

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/23/2017 9:03:00 PM PST · 179 of 193
    daniel1212 to Luircin; Elsie
    I seem to remember that Jesus is God and is therefore omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. So there, nyah nyah, and other RF debate tactics.

    Certainly Christ can spiritually dwell in us, (Eph. 3:14) and among us, (Matthew 18:20) but that is simply not the Catholic version of "the Real Presence" as described, which system goes to great pains to justify how "this is My body which is broken for you" and "blood which is shed" is not the literal flesh and blood that was broken and shed for us - which a plainly literal reading of the words (which Caths claim they engage in) would mean, but is "the same body" "corporeal, not spiritual," that is not literally the same, but "a new form," under the temporary appearance of inanimate objects which do really do not exist but do, according (as said) to the same tests by which His incarnated body would prove to be real.

    It is amazing yet grievous what by erroneous extrapolation the flesh can read into Scripture which fails to teach it. This is not the like the Trinity, a basically simple but non-contradictory explanation demanded by many texts which state facts and reconcile them, which no other explanation which does.

    For in addition to teaching such things we do not see in the only inspired record of the NT church which reveals how they understood the gospels, such as as Catholic priests uniquely effecting charges and offering the confection as a sacrifice for sin, and this being a central practice of the church whereby the participants spiritually fed and obtain eternal life, the metaphorical understanding most easily explains and reconciles all the texts, and conflates with the rest of Scripture. Thanks be to God.

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/23/2017 7:56:56 PM PST · 178 of 193
    daniel1212 to Luircin; Elsie; Arthur McGowan; ealgeone; DungeonMaster
    I don’t think I have any stake in this game; I’m not in the mood to get both sides turning on me because I believe in the Real Presence. But I do note how nasty OP remains to everyone else.

    Well, you need to have the right version of the Real Presence, that of "the actual partaking of Christ in person," "the very body" "true and proper and lifegiving flesh and blood of Jesus Christ," whole and entire in His physical "reality,” "with His bodily organs and limb," His flesh being "corporeal, not spiritual" with the actual partaking being of Christ in person, hence literally,” yet not as "sensible, visible, tangible, or extended, although it is such in heaven," but under a "new mode of being," under the mere appearance of non-existent bread and wine, "in each particle and in each drop" until the bread or wine which no longer exist begin to decompose, but which scientifically test as bread and wine (thus persons with celiac disease suffer adverse effects to the non-existent gluten);

    And which transubstantiation only a Catholic priest can effect, and sacrifice Christ who is "offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead and to obtain spiritual or temporal benefits from God," and "the work of our redemption is carried out,” "the manner alone of offering being different."

    Which is then consumed as being “the medicine of immortality, the antidote for death, and the food that makes us live for ever in Jesus Christ," as as "You are what you eat and the Church becomes the Body of Christ by partaking of the Body of Christ—this is how we come to know Christ, who is Truth."


    If that is not the "Real Presence" you believe in, then due to the metaphysical contrivance of Catholicism you too are guilty of heresy, while a docetist Christ (who was real but only appeared to have a real physical body) seems more akin in concept to a "real" substantially present bodily christ who temporarily merely appears as a mere actually non-existent inanimate object, but real (according to the same tests by which His incarnated body would prove to be real).

  • George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

    11/23/2017 4:43:00 PM PST · 24 of 30
    daniel1212 to imardmd1
    Glad you likeDavid Barton and his message. I’ve been acquainted with him for many years. Not closely, but in passing we’ve chatted. Thanks for the post.

    . While he has been called out for some undocumented or incorrect attributions, and his web site throws too much at you (to typical today, unlike FR) Barton has overall been a needed resource and a blessing which the secularist "religion" wishes never has existed.

  • How to Think About Vladimir Putin (really excellent)

    11/23/2017 4:28:06 PM PST · 88 of 93
    daniel1212 to Greetings_Puny_Humans
    This is essentially a phenomena of Duginist anti-Americanism that combines itself with a “Nationalism” that embraces even communist crapholes like Cuba. While I appreciate someone who kills journalists just as much as the next guy, this sort of ideology is utterly anti-American despite its lip service to anti-globalism and American patriotism. Ultimately the Duginist types do support a type of globalism—a one world empire originating in Russia, complete with renaming France “Gaul”, and other nations by their ancient names once they take power.

    Rather eloquent, but had to look up Duginist, ideology of Aleksandr Dugin , Russian political analyst, strategist and philosopher known for his fascist views, leading organizer of the National Bolshevik Party, key member of the ruling United Russia party Sergei Naryshkin, of author of more than 30 books, and who calls to hasten the "end of times" with all-out war.

    Now wonder we see stories like Dugin's Evil Theology - | National Review

  • George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

    11/23/2017 2:25:56 PM PST · 23 of 30
    daniel1212 to jimfr
    while I did not look up every listing you have - there is a difference between God yelling to fast and a person choosing to fast

    Why the yelling about yelling? Of course you did not yell (fire!), but neither did God, and thus the question is why would you react to one of the many many commands under the Law by characterizing it as "yelling," and make that the contrast btwn voluntarily choosing to fast?

    Why is this so seemingly objectionable to you? Did not the Lord Jesus fast Himself and require self denial (and never commands feasting, except as the Lord's supper), and foretell that His disciples would?

    My flesh does not like to fast myself, but what I see Scripture teaching should not be determined by what I like or dislike.

  • George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

    11/23/2017 9:17:58 AM PST · 19 of 30
    daniel1212 to jimfr
    I think it is interesting that God never told the Isrealites to fast, only to feast. Not so.
  • George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

    11/23/2017 9:05:45 AM PST · 18 of 30
    daniel1212 to The Ignorant Fisherman; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; ..
    Thanks for posting this, which I was going to do myself but found yo beat me to it!

    But don't forget two others ones:

    Congressional Thanksgiving Day Proclamation, November 1, 1777 — Forasmuch as it is the indispensable duty of all men to adore the superintending providence of Almighty God; to acknowledge with gratitude their obligation to him for benefits received, and to implore such farther blessings as they stand in need of;...

    It is therefore recommended to the legislative or executive powers of these United States, to set apart Thursday, the 18th day of December next, for solemn thanksgiving and praise; that with one heart and one voice the good people may express the grateful feelings of their hearts, and consecrate themselves to the service of their divine benefactor; and that together with their sincere acknowledgments and offerings, they may join the penitent confession of their manifold sins, whereby they had forfeited every favor, and their humble and earnest supplication that it may please God, through the merits of Jesus Christ, mercifully to forgive and blot them out of remembrance ;...may render them fit instruments, under the providence of Almighty take schools and seminaries of education, so necessary for cultivating the principles of true liberty, virtue and piety, under his nurturing hand, and to prosper the means of religion for the promotion and enlargement of that kingdom which consisteth in righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (

    Congressional Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1782 — It being the indispensable duty of all nations, not only to offer up their supplications to Almighty God, the giver of all good, for His gracious assistance in a time of distress, but also in a solemn and public manner, to give Him praise for His goodness in general, and especially for great and signal interpositions of His Providence in their behalf; therefore, the Unites States in Congress assembled, taking into their consideration the many instances of Divine goodness to these States in the course of the important conflict, in which they have been so long engaged, - the present happy and promising state of public affairs, and the events of the war in the course of the year now drawing to a close;..

    Do hereby recommend it to the inhabitants of these States in general, to observe and request the several states to interpose their authority, in appointing and commanding the observation of THURSDAY the TWENTY-EIGHTH DAY OF NOVEMBER next as a day of SOLEMN THANKSGIVING to GOD for all His mercies; and they do further recommend to all ranks to testify their gratitude to God for His goodness by a cheerful obedience to His laws and by promoting, each in his station, and by his influence, the practice of true and undefiled religion, which is the great foundation of public prosperity and national happiness.

    Done in Congress at Philadelphia, the eleventh day of October, in the year of our LORD, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-two, and of our Sovereignty and Independence, the seventh. (

    More quotes, by God's grace

  • Charles Manson Was Not a Product of the Counterculture

    11/22/2017 2:23:30 PM PST · 41 of 44
    daniel1212 to detective

    The NY Times is both a cause and product of the Counterculture, so what should be expect?

  • CIA Operative Sent Back In Time To Stop Chris Tomlin From Messing With All The Hymns

    11/22/2017 2:06:36 PM PST · 6 of 9
    daniel1212 to fishtank

    If only.

  • This man discovered a dirty little secret that reinvented medicine

    11/22/2017 1:25:09 AM PST · 23 of 23
    daniel1212 to the OlLine Rebel; x1stcav
    You have to get lucky with FR. Have to think of all the right possible words and hope they are in the keywords that users added. It’s not your fault.

    Better off using Google site search: This man discovered a dirty little secret that reinvented medicine

    In Firefox, you might try Site Search – Add-ons for Firefox - Firefox Add-ons - Mozilla

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/21/2017 8:38:36 PM PST · 142 of 193
    daniel1212 to ealgeone
    Where’d you copy that from? You don’t write that way.

    Its from his linked source in post 64, so the only fault is posting false cardinal doctrine, no small crime.

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/21/2017 8:34:02 PM PST · 141 of 193
    daniel1212 to ebb tide
    Besides what I posted above by the grace of God, while you reject modern popes as heretics and thus attack V2 teachings, what normally would be your own conservative brethren reprove you on this, including by invoking (so-called) early church fathers and Catholic history (

    When thou goest to receive communion go not with thy wrists extended, nor with thy fingers separated, but placing thy left hand as a throne for thy right, which is to receive so great a King, and in the hollow of the palm receive the body of Christ, saying, Amen. -St. Cyril of Jerusalem: "Fifth Mystagogical Catechesis", 21: PG 33. col 1125 (c. 350 AD) as cited by the Quintsext Synod of Trullo Canon 101 (c. 692 AD)

    The word paten comes from a Latin form patina or patena, evidently imitated from the Greek patane. It seems from the beginning to have been used to denote a flat open vessel of the nature of a plate or dish. Such vessels in the first centuries were used in the service of the altar, and probably served to collect the offerings of bread made by the faithful and also to distribute the consecrated fragments which, after the loaf had been broken by the celebrant, were brought down to the communicants, who in their own hands received each a portion from the patina… -

    In the early days of the Church the faithful frequently carried the Blessed Eucharist with them to their homes (cf. Tertullian, "Ad uxor.", II, v; Cyprian, "De lapsis", xxvi) or upon long journeys (Ambrose, De excessu fratris, I, 43, 46), while the deacons were accustomed to take the Blessed Sacrament to those who did not attend Divine service (cf. Justin, Apol., I, n. 67), as well as to the martyrs, the incarcerated, and the infirm (cf. Eusebius, Hist. Eccl., VI, xliv). The deacons were also obliged to transfer the particles that remained to specially prepared repositories called Pastophoria (cf. Apostolic Constitutions, VIII, xiii). -

    It is needless to point out that for anyone in times of persecution to be compelled to take the communion in his own hand without the presence of a priest or minister is not a serious offence, as long custom sanctions this practice from the facts themselves. All the solitaries in the desert, where there is no priest, take the communion themselves, keeping communion at home. And at Alexandria and in Egypt, each one of the laity, for the most part, keeps the communion, at his own house, and participates in it when he likes. For when once the priest has completed the offering, and given it, the recipient, participating in it each time as entire, is bound to believe that he properly takes and receives it from the giver.And even in the church, when the priest gives the portion, the recipient takes it with complete power over it, and so lifts it to his lips with his own hand. It has the same validity whether one portion or several portions are received from the priest at the same time. -

  • “Whatever You Can Do to Stop Communion in the Hand Will be Blessed by God” ~ Fr. John Hardon S.J.

    11/21/2017 8:07:59 PM PST · 135 of 193
    daniel1212 to ebb tide; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
    Are you serious? Where in Acts or 1 Corinthians - the only books within the inspired record what the NT church did and how they understood the gospels where the Lord's supper may be said to be described besides (Jude's mere mention of the "feat of charity") is it even inferred that what was consumed was a wafer of bread placed on the tongue by a Catholic priest (which as shown , were not NT presbuteros)?

    As for the rest of your prolix posting of propaganda, so save typing: The Lord's Supper: metaphorical commemoration or the consumption of the metaphysical "real" body and blood of the Lord Jesus?

    (Note: allow scripts for pop up Bible verses

    Table of Contents


    1. Catholic teaching on the Eucharist

    2. Metaphorical versus literal language

    3. Supper accounts and John 6: Conformity to Scripture, and consequences of the literalistic interpretation.

    4. 1Cor. 10,11

    5. The Lord's Supper in the record and descriptions of the New Testament church

    6. Purely literal versus the contrived Catholic interpretation

    7. The nature of the Catholic metaphysical explanation

    8. The Lord's Supper is not a sacrifice for sins

    9. Absence of the sacerdotal Eucharistic priesthood

    10. Metaphorical view of Jn. 6 is not new.

    11. Endocannibalism

    12. Conclusion

  • How to Think About Vladimir Putin (really excellent)

    11/21/2017 7:31:26 PM PST · 66 of 93
    daniel1212 to Samogon
    But I feel very strongly about white-washing Putin and his regime.

    Indeed. It is alarming how many conservatives mistake Putin for a good leader. I would likely be in prison in his country, and FR would not exist.

  • How to Think About Vladimir Putin (really excellent)

    11/21/2017 7:27:43 PM PST · 64 of 93
    daniel1212 to NRx; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
    While stating some Truths, rather than objectivity Its basically puff piece for Putin written by a anti-capitalist writer infected with the liberal victim of America mentality, and who esteems Putin and Castor a same basic reason,

    You didn’t have to be a Communist to appreciate the way Castro, whatever his excesses, was carving out a space of autonomy for his country....Putin has become a symbol of national sovereignty in its battle with globalism.

    He has nothing good to say about America, and adds to his censures by saying,

    “Most Russians have come to believe that democracy is what happened in their country between 1990 and 2000, and they do not want any more of it.”

    This is overall likely understandably true, but the reason democracy failed is because democracy alone is not an answer, as you need leaders and a people who are committed to Biblical values and freedoms, and not a national church, which is precisely what freedom the egotist Putin is contrary to.

    Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled, either by a power within them, or by a power without them; either by the Word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible, or by the bayonet. It may do for other countries and other governments to talk about the State supporting religion. Here, under our own free institutions, it is Religion which must support the State." (Speech to the Massachusetts Bible Society (1849-05-28), quoted in Robert Winthrop, Addresses and Speeches on Various Occasions, Little, Brown & Co., 1852, p. 172)

    That the author ignores Russia's increasing persecution of Christians is consistent with his bias, ignorance or marginalization of the basic faith which enabled democracy to work.

    Russia's Newest Law: No Evangelizing Outside of Church | News ...

    Christians are Severely Persecuted in Putin's Russia – But That Could ...

    Christian Persecution Increasing in Russia - Christian News Headlines

    Report: Non-Orthodox Christians Face 'Strong Discrimination' in Russia

    Russia, other former Soviet republics persecuting Christians, new ...

    Moscow church destroyed in sign of new Russian repression Posted on Sep 26, 2012 | by Jill Nelson

    MOSCOW (BP) -- It was in the early hours of the morning on Sept. 6 when Pastor Vasili Romanyuk's phone rang. A group of men backed by local police were demolishing his Holy Trinity Pentecostal Church, housed in a three-story building nestled in a Moscow suburb. As word spread, congregants arrived at the scene hoping to save the building, but their efforts were futile. By dawn the church was in ruins and some of its most valuable contents were missing.

    An isolated incident? A misunderstanding? Analysts watching the current climate in the former Cold War country don't think so: "This destruction of the church is about as concrete of evidence as you can get that something very bad and very troubling is taking place," said Katrina Lantos Swett, chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. "This could not have happened without the backing, support, and implicit blessing of the police."

    The incident is just one sign of deteriorating freedoms in Russia, and behind the scenes a cozy relationship between the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church has raised more than a few eyebrows. As President Vladimir Putin digs into his third term, a number of Kremlin crackdowns involving vague interpretations of the country's extremism law and other human-rights abuses are troubling signs that the country has slipped into a familiar, repressive era.

    "When you have unknown people backed by the police coming out at midnight to begin tearing down a church, you know something doesn't smell right," Lantos Swett said.

    Officials evicted Holy Trinity Church from its original building in 1995 and relocated the church to the eastern Moscow suburb. The congregation used its own funds to construct a new building and repeatedly battled officials over permits. The church demolition and its history reflect an emerging pattern: Authorities confiscate land from non-favored religious communities and force the congregation to relocate to a remote suburb, the religious leaders apply for permits that are subsequently denied, and officials confiscate (once again) or demolish the relocated congregation, citing lack of proper documentation.

    Pastor Romanyuk and a small group of the church's 550 congregants arrived on site around 3:30 a.m. as about 45 men claiming to be civil volunteers blocked them from the building and threw stones. "When I arrived, I just burst into tears," 25-year-old Natalya Cherevichinik told The Moscow Times as she surveyed the destruction. "I couldn't believe that something that had been built over several years could be destroyed in a few hours."

    Russian Evangelicals Leery of Orthodox Church, Friday, December 30, 2011:

    class="adjusted">MOSCOW, Russia -- For decades, the Russian Orthodox Church was persecuted under the Soviet Union's Communist Party.

    Since the early 1990s, the church has grown in size and influence as its relationship with the Russian government has improved significantly.

    However, that cozy relationship worries the country's evangelicals.

    Threats Against Evangelicals

    For eight years, Yuri Sipko ran one of the largest Baptist organizations in Russia. Now, 20 years after the fall of Communism, he worries about the growing threats against the country's evangelical movement.

    "The collapse of Communism was supposed to usher in an era of greater religious freedom, but I'm concerned we are moving in the wrong direction," Sipko said.

    What makes the Russian evangelicals very concerned is an emerging relationship between the Russian government and the Russian Orthodox Church.

    "For example, the government recently introduced religious classes based on the principals of the Orthodox Church in public schools," Sipko said.

    "Then late last year, the Russian president announced an initiative to appoint Orthodox chaplains to all army units," he said. "Our constitution clearly states no religion can be the state religion."

    Russia Church-State Relations

    Russia watchers credit two men, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev, for elevating the church's prominence. The state media has also played a key role, often showing the leaders attending church services.

    Sergey Ryakhovski knows both men well. As head of Russia's Pentecostal Union, he meets regularly with top government and Orthodox Church leaders.

    Ryakhovski worries that the Orthodox Church's influence is coming at the expense of religious freedom, especially for minority groups such as Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists.

    "There are so many laws and by-laws that regulate religious life in Russia," Ryakhovski said. "For example, evangelical Christians just can't go out and buy a church building or buy a piece of land to build a church."

    "Plus, criticizing or challenging the Orthodox Church is not a task for all," he added.

    Orthodox Church Revival

    The Russian Orthodox Church on the other hand has had it easy in recent times after decades of state persecution.

    Church buildings that were destroyed during the Soviet era have been rebuilt with Russian taxpayer money. In the past 20 years, the government has spent hundreds of millions of dollars restoring some 23,000 churches.

    Most Russians say they belong to the Orthodox Church. Yet CBN News found mixed reactions on the streets of Moscow to the growing bond between church and state

    At Expense of All Others, Putin Picks a Church

    By CLIFFORD J. LEVY Published: April 24, 2008

    STARY OSKOL, Russia —

    It was not long after a Methodist church put down roots here that the troubles began.

    First came visits from agents of the F.S.B., a successor to the K.G.B., who evidently saw a threat in a few dozen searching souls who liked to huddle in cramped apartments to read the Bible and, perhaps, drink a little tea. Local officials then labeled the church a “sect.” Finally, last month, they shut it down.

    There was a time after the fall of Communism when small Protestant congregations blossomed here in southwestern Russia, when a church was almost as easy to set up as a general store. Today, this industrial region has become emblematic of the suppression of religious freedom under President Vladimir V. Putin.

    Just as the government has tightened control over political life, so, too, has it intruded in matters of faith. The Kremlin’s surrogates in many areas have turned the Russian Orthodox Church into a de facto official religion, warding off other Christian denominations that seem to offer the most significant competition for worshipers. They have all but banned proselytizing by Protestants and discouraged Protestant worship through a variety of harassing measures, according to dozens of interviews with government officials and religious leaders across Russia.

    Russia's De-Facto State Religion : Persecution : http://www ...‎ International Christian Co... Putin frequently appears with the Orthodox head, Patriarch Aleksei II, ... Baptists, evangelicals, Pentecostals and many others who cut Christ's robes like bandits, ...

    Government Returning Land to Religious Organizations to Favor Orthodox Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009: An ambitious draft law on the transfer of property of religious significance to religious organisations may reignite a process begun in 1993.

    Pentecostal Seminary Targeted for Liquidation

    Pentecostal Church Forced to Meet Outside in Moscow Winter

    Russia: Governor Orders Church Land Grab

    Council of Religious Experts threatens religious freedom

    A new Inquisition ?

    Russia “You have the law, we have orders

    In contrast,

    the early days of the American experiment the famous French Catholic political thinker and historian, Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859) best known for his two volume, "Democracy in America") attested,

    Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more did I perceive the great political consequences resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned in common over the same country. <

    The sects that exist in the United States are innumerable. They all differ in respect to the worship which is due to the Creator; but they all agree in respect to the duties which are due from man to man. Each sect adores the Deity in its own peculiar manner, but all sects preach the same moral law in the name of God...Moreover, all the sects of the United States are comprised within the great unity of Christianity, and Christian morality is everywhere the same...

    n the United States the sovereign authority is religious, and consequently hypocrisy must be common; but there is no country in the whole world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility, and of its conformity to human nature, than that its influence is most powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth...

    The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live... Thus religious zeal is perpetually warmed in the United States by the fires of patriotism. These men do not act exclusively from a consideration of a future life; eternity is only one motive of their devotion to the cause. If you converse with these missionaries of Christian civilization, you will be surprised to hear them speak so often of the goods of this world, and to meet a politician where you expected to find a priest. (Democracy in America, [New York: A. S. Barnes & Co., 1851), pp. 331, 332, 335, 336-7, 337;

    And Benjamin Franklin also advertised,

    And the Divine Being seems to have manifested His approbation of the mutual forbearance and kindness by which the different sects treat each other, and by the remarkable prosperity with which He has been please to favor the whole country. (Benjamin Franklin, "Information to those who would Remove to America" In Franklin, Benjamin. The Bagatelles from Passy. Ed. Lopez, Claude A. New York: Eakins Press. 1967; Also, John Gould Curtis, American history told by contemporaries .... Volume 3, p. 26)

    We cannot doubt that the Russian Orthodox Church is an arm of the government. It's infiltration and control by the KGB is quite well known, and its corruption is just as extreme as any other sector of the "post"-Communist society of Russia. For example: "Kirill, who was the Metropolitan of Smolensk, succeeds Alexei II who died in December after 18 years as head of the Russian Church. According to material from the Soviet archives, Kirill was a KGB agent (as was Alexei). This means he was more than just an informer, of whom there were millions in the Soviet Union. He was an active officer of the organization. Neither Kirill nor Alexei ever acknowledged or apologized for their ties with the security agencies. As head of the church’s department of foreign church relations, Kirill gained the reputation of a relatively enlightened church leader. He met with Pope Benedict, and he has been attacked by church conservatives for “ecumenism.”Snip...

  • Cardinal Says Pope Francis Inspired Him to Get ‘Creative’ in Liturgy, Lets Lay People Read Gospel

    11/21/2017 6:19:48 AM PST · 108 of 117
    daniel1212 to Hieronymus
    The particular Catholics who banned and burned the Wycliffe Bible were those who took part in the English Parliament of 1401 under the leadership of Henry IV, who was a King of England, not the Pope

    Which is just another typical vain sophist attempt to protect your "one true church," since De heretico comburendo (2 Hen.4 c.15, punishing heretics with burning at the stake, was simply that of a RC anointed king and "particular Catholics" obeying the pope!

    Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council (canon 3), 1215, convoked by Pope Innocent III with the papal bull Vineam domini Sabaoth of 19 April 1213:

    We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that raises against the holy, orthodox and Catholic faith which we have above explained; condemning all heretics under whatever names they may be known, for while they have different faces they are nevertheless bound to each other by their tails, since in all of them vanity is a common element.

    Those condemned, being handed over to the secular rulers of their bailiffs, let them be abandoned, to be punished with due justice, clerics being first degraded from their orders. As to the property of the condemned, if they are laymen, let it be confiscated; if clerics, let it be applied to the churches from which they received revenues. But those who are only suspected, due consideration being given to the nature of the suspicion and the character of the person, unless they prove their innocence by a proper defense, let them be anathematized and avoided by all until they have made suitable satisfaction; but if they have been under excommunication for one year, then let them be condemned as heretics.

    Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure, that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful, so for the defense of the faith they ought publicly to take an oath that they will strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church; so that whenever anyone shall have assumed authority, whether spiritual or temporal, let him be bound to confirm this decree by oath.

    But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated by the metropolitan and the other bishops of the province. If he refuses to make satisfaction within a year, let the matter be made known to the supreme pontiff, that he may declare the ruler’s vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance and preserve it in the purity of faith; the right, however, of the chief ruler is to be respected as long as he offers no obstacle in this matter and permits freedom of action.

    The same law is to be observed in regard to those who have no chief rulers (that is, are independent). Catholics who have girded themselves with the cross for the extermination of the heretics, shall enjoy the indulgences and privileges granted to those who go in defense of the Holy Land. (

    And your source also states, The Church authorities condemned Wycliffe's translation because they deemed the commentary included with the work to be heretical, and because they feared a vernacular translation of the Bible from the Latin Vulgate, absent appropriate catechesis, would lead the ignorant laity to reject Church authority and fall into heresy.

    I fully share your appreciation that the value of imprimaturs varies hugely,

    Canon law places significant weight on such approval and which stamp flows from the Inquisition's ‘Index of Prohibited Books’, and while the Inquisitions provide examples of Rome's unscriptural use of the sword of men to deal with theological nonconformity - which ways and means i think many tradRcs long for - the basic condemnation of this by modern Rome (such as that RC leaders can no longer kill heretics) examples how obedience to the ope in one century can be disobedience in another, while the sanction of liberal "scholarship" of modern Rome even in her own Bible for decades provides further testimony of her being a false church albeit with some true teachings.

  • Fasting-mimicking diet may reverse diabetes (Type 1 reversal by diet)

    11/20/2017 9:43:07 PM PST · 62 of 68
    daniel1212 to Bloody Sam Roberts

    You must weight about 100lbs if you keep that up. I am 5’5’’, 130lbs, age 65 (now i feel i am calling a health show) medium build, and with a kind of slow metabolism (get cold easily). I usually do not eat until i feel weak and need energy, and then it usually is not much, and i try to eat low fat foods, but the amount is much more than you list here.

    Usually if i go more than 12 hours or so before eating I have little energy, including mentally, so i do not feel i am accomplishing much. But if it go beyond when i usually would eat it is usually for spiritual purposes, which can accomplish much. Thanks be to God.