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Posts by daniel1212

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  • Salvation and Church

    04/25/2018 5:00:24 AM PDT · 524 of 545
    daniel1212 to Luircin

    I see the hijacker of threads has been at it again. Reminds me of the cultic followers of William Branham

  • Salvation and Church

    04/25/2018 4:52:59 AM PDT · 523 of 545
    daniel1212 to aMorePerfectUnion; Steelfish
    Hey steely, It’s been several days since you claimed there were thousands of Protestant theologians who become catholic. I asked for a list, but you went quiet Where is your list of “thousands of Protestant theologians” who have joined the Roman church?? I’d very much like to see it, because it doesn’t sound legitimate to me. Have you found it yet?? Please post.

    So its "thousands" now? Before it was "a vast [unnamed] constellation of Protestant theologians, from Henry Newman to Richard Neuhaus." Regardless, what would that prove? His list begins with an Anglican and ends with a Lutheran, both of which are closest to Catholicism, testifying to their lack of discernment, while the church did not overall begin with the formally learned recognizing who and what was of God, but instead " the common people heard him gladly, (Mark 12:37) and in contrast to "the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders," such "counted John, that he was a prophet indeed." (Mark 11:32)

    And vastly more of such have left Catholicism for evangelical faith than vice versa, thanks be to God. And in contrast, theologians tend to be liberal.

    The overall judgment of the "theologians" can be summed up by the testimony of John 7,

    Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him? The officers answered, Never man spake like this man. Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived? Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him? But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed. (John 7:45-49)

    But thank God for Paul and Apollos, and for theologians such as Jonathan Edwards and for many of the evangelical scholars.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/23/2018 6:51:55 PM PDT · 416 of 545
    daniel1212 to evangmlw
    “No man comes to the Father except through me.” ~ Jesus Christ “There is but one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.” ~ Apostle Paul I’ll believe the word of God, which I know very well. I’ve also had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ for 52 years. What’s more, people were saved by faith even before the founding of the church. People are still saved by faith, “faith in Christ,” not faith in an organization.

    Indeed! Thanks be to God so for great salvation.

  • Troubles with Cloning and Recovery of my Windows 10 PC

    04/23/2018 5:19:06 AM PDT · 27 of 62
    daniel1212 to poconopundit
    The BIOS ( Basic Input/Output System) is not on the SSD, but pre-installed on the system motherboard, and it is the first software run when powered on, and looks for the a boot loader on the HD

    Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI ) is the successor to that, and UEFI can support remote diagnostics and repair of computers, even with no operating system installed

    You can get a USB optical drive for under 25.00

    Your problem however, may be with memory or the motherboard. Create or buy a Linux live copy, which you can run off a USB flash drive by which you should be able to see Windows files. However, uness you use Knoppix or Puppy Linux buy on USB if you want may not allow you to edit files therein.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 1:46:56 PM PDT · 298 of 545
    daniel1212 to ADSUM
    You can either believe or not believe in the “Real Presence” of Jesus in the Eucharist. Obviously you don’t.

    You can either believe or not believe in the “Real Presence” of Jesus as defined by the Catholic church as transubstantiation. Obviously you don’t, since as shown, Eucharistic theology is contrary to the hosts being a body "sensible, visible, tangible," which can be be "detected by sense, nor understanding" versus , by faith alone. If you have a host that is physically alive, and some claim to have even a pulsating or bleeding host, then it would mean you are physically putting Christ to death again. Which would make you damnable.

    No less an authority than your Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church, considered the issue of such purported miraculous manifestations of the physical flesh of Christ in the hosts and explained that what appeared on those occasions,

    could not be the real flesh and blood of Christ, for such a possibility was excluded by the nature of transubstantiation and of Christ’s sacramental presence ;

    but they were miraculous representations produced by divine power as tokens to direct men’s thoughts to, and to strengthen their belief in, the true flesh and blood of Christ invisibly present under the Eucharistic species.

    When Catholic theologians today discuss such miracles they are rightly very cautious about the question of fact, which, they point out, must be examined with rigorous canons of historical criticism in each particular instance ; on the doctrinal question they teach that in any such apparitions it is not the true blood or tissue of Christ that appears, but, as St Thomas held, a representative sign caused by divine power ('Bleeding hosts' and Eucharistic theology, Francis Clark, S.J.)

    However, if you would like to read about the 120 Vatican approved miracles, then you can read the following article:

    One can argue that God can perform these miracles, but the fact remains that your belief in what the Real Presence via transubstantiation means is not that of Catholic theology, much less that of Scripture.

    I do believe by Faith in the words of Jesus “This is My Body’ and “This is My Blood”.

    Meaning you believe in your interpretation of them, which is contrary to what transubstantiation means, and what is manifest in Scripture .

    If one does not accept the Truth of Jesus about the Eucharist, how many other false teachings about Jesus do they believe?

    If one does accept the lie of Jesus in the Eucharist, how many other false teachings about Jesus do they believe? Many it turns out.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 1:02:51 PM PDT · 277 of 545
    daniel1212 to JesusIsLord; Salvation
    Do you see my posts disagreeing with your viewpoint? Which ones?

    I do not, as far as i know, but notice that the post at issue was not responding to you, but to salvation, but I included others as a party here to the exchange with her. I think we have some friendly fire here.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 12:59:29 PM PDT · 275 of 545
    daniel1212 to MHGinTN
    The words had too many syllables for the small catholic mind.

    It makes for an excuse in any case, while then we have RCs who vainly try to argue that the conversion of intellectuals is a testimony to the validity of RC doctrine.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 12:56:28 PM PDT · 272 of 545
    daniel1212 to infool7
    That was supposed to be a refute? I apologize, it just seemed like gibberish to me.

    Once again, resorting to your solitary profession of incomprehension is a poor excuse for an argument.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 12:56:21 PM PDT · 271 of 545
    daniel1212 to infool7
    You and your six five friends may think so but you are delusional as to the number of folks that hold your unique point of view. Certainly in your tiny world of sycophants the sane man must appear insane however unfortunately for you the opposite is not true in the real word. Did you ever consider that just because Danial1212 says he knows "more" than the vast majority of Roman Catholics it's only because he is 180° out from reality.

    Once again, infantile habitual recourse to ad hominem against those who refute you (whether you comprehend this or not) is a poor excuse for an actual argument.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 9:02:45 AM PDT · 220 of 545
    daniel1212 to infool7
    The uninspired words of such simply cannot be determinitive of what the NT church believed, for the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels) is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation. And in which Catholic distinctives are not manifest .

    Your sentence structure is truly bewildering have you had your morning coffee yet? Try again maybe next try you can make some sense.

    Your recourse to ad homimem when faced with what refutes you is consistent with your past history. Go find others who find the above bewildering and insensible, unless coffee would actually remedy your lack of comprehension.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 8:58:11 AM PDT · 218 of 545
    daniel1212 to ADSUM; Salvation
    I accept and believe that the Holy Eucharist is the Body Blood of Jesus. The consecrated host has been scientifically examined and determined to be heart muscle that was stressed and the blood type AB.

    While that is what a specious claim purports, regardless, that is simply not what your own Eucharistic theology teaches, as you are equating "presence" with testable properties and thus your belief is contrary to your own dogma, rendering your, like salvation, to be a contrary to you own church.

    For what is your own metaphysical Eucharistic theology teaches is that at “consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood,thus becoming the “true Body of Christ and his true Blood,” (CCC 1376; 1381) having been “substantially changed into the true and proper and lifegiving flesh and blood of Jesus Christ our Lord,” being corporeally present whole and entire in His physical "reality.” (Mysterium Fidei, Encyclical of Pope Paul VI, 1965) "the very body which he gave up for us on the cross, the very blood which he "poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins,"(CCC 1365) with His human body and human soul, with His bodily organs and limbs and with His human mind, will and feelings. (John A. Hardon, S.J., Part I: Eucharistic Doctrine on the Real Presence) Thus the statement, "Consequently, eating and drinking are to be understood of the actual partaking of Christ in person, hence literally.” (Catholic Encyclopedia>The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist)

    Yet not as a body "sensible, visible, tangible, or extended, although it is such in heaven ," but under a "new mode of being,"(John A. Hardon, S.J., Doctrine of the Real Presence in the Encyclical "Mediator Dei") so that the Eucharist being "the true and proper and lifegiving flesh and blood of Jesus Christ," "the very body which he gave up for us on the cross," etc. does not mean the bread and wine are literally transformed into actual literal human flesh, thus "If you took the consecrated host to a laboratory it would be chemically shown to be bread, not human flesh ." (Dwight Longenecker, "Explaining Transubstantiation") The presence of Christ's true body and blood in this sacrament cannot be detected by sense, nor understanding, but by faith alone..." (Summa Theologica; Summa Theologica - Christian Classics Ethereal Library)

    Futhermore it is imagined that that at the moment of the completion of the words of consecration by the priest (and only by ordained priests) then the bread and wine no longer exist, while the "Real Presence" of Christ's body that these elements are changed into (which change is said to be occur outside of time) only exists until the bread or wine - which again, are held to no longer exist - begin to (visibly) decompose, as Aquinas affirms (Summa theologiae, III, q. 77, a. 6) as well as others: "The Eucharistic presence of Christ begins at the moment of the consecration and endures as long as the Eucharistic species subsist. Christ is present whole and entire in each of the species and whole and entire in each of their parts, in such a way that the breaking of the bread does not divide Christ." (CCC 1377; Cf. Council of Trent: DS 1641) "...that is, until the Eucharist is digested, physically destroyed, or decays by some natural process." (The Holy Eucharist BY Bernard Mulcahy, O.P., p. 32) Thus persons with celiac disease can suffer adverse effects to the non-existent gluten in the Eucharistic host) and wine (which one could get drunk on in sufficient quantity) takes place (as with mold, digestion, etc.), in which case "Christ has discontinued His Presence therein." (Catholic Encyclopedia>The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist)

    Thus, rather than the Eucharistic species/hosts being as the same actual physical body and blood as was manifest in His incarnated, death and resurrection, and which looked, felt, behaved, and would taste and test as actual human flesh - and which manifest physicality John emphasized in contrast to a docetist Christ or gnostic Christ who appeared to be something He was not (as the Eucharist does) - the Eucharist is said to be the "true body" of Christ under a "new mode of being."

    Which means the invisible substance of the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ , even though the Eucharistic species still looks, feels, behaves, and would taste and test as actual bread and wine, and thus such decays even though it is said to no longer exist.

    And which is actually akin to Gnostic thought, while the only Christ in Scripture is one that was manifestly physical.

    RCC (and basically EOs):

    at the moment of the Consecration which is when the priest says, "This is my body," "This is the cup of my blood" the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Jesus Christ who is then really present as God and as Man sacrificing himself for us on the altar as he sacrificed himself on the cross.

    The presence of Christ's true body and blood in this sacrament cannot be detected by sense, nor understanding, but by faith alone..." (Summa Theologica; Summa Theologica - Christian Classics Ethereal Library)

    "If you took the consecrated host to a laboratory it would be chemically shown to be bread, not human flesh." (Dwight Longenecker, "Explaining Transubstantiation")

    "Christ's presence in the Eucharist challenges human understanding, logic, and ultimately reason. His presence cannot be known by the senses, but only through faith." (Norms for the Distribution and Reception of Holy Communion under Both Kinds in the Dioceses of the United States of America)

    "the Most Holy Eucharist not only looks like something it isn’t (that is, bread and wine), but also tastes, smells, feels, and in all ways appears to be what it isn’t." (The Holy Eucharist BY Bernard Mulcahy, O.P., p. 22)

    Bible:

    And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (Luke 24:38-39)

    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.. (John 1:14) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (1 John 1:1)

    And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (1 John 4:3) This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. (1 John 5:6)

    More : Eucharistic theology

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 7:29:23 AM PDT · 208 of 545
    daniel1212 to ADSUM; metmom
    It is from the teachings of Jesus and from the traditions that were established by Jesus and the Apostles before the New Testament was written.

    Which is a fundamental error, and which are a testimony to the progressive accretions of traditions of men. For the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels) is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation. And in which Catholic distinctives are not manifest .

    Just as the Old Testament had bloody sacrifices of animals as an offering to God, Jesus gave us the New Covenant and the Eucharist and the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass that we offer to God everyday in most countries.

    No, that is simply not what the wholly inspired record of what the NT church believed teaches. In which, rather than being the central focus of the life of the church, any manifest description of the Lord's supper is only seen in one epistle (aside from the mention of the "feast of charity" in Jude 1:12 and the mere mention of breaking of bread in Acts);

    and is never shown to be conducted by pastors (while that would be a function, there is no basis for this being a unique and primary function of them), and never as a sacrifice for sins conducted by a separate class of believers for which the distinctive Greek word for such is used , as Catholicism does.

    Nor does 1 Corinthians 10 or 11 teach literally consuming the flesh of Christ, much less according to the Catholic metaphysical contrivance of it, but of communally taking part in the commemorative "feast of charity," thereby showing oneness with the object of their worship and with each other. Like as pagans had fellowship with the object of their dedicatory feasts.

    To save time, just read my examination here , by God's grace.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 7:10:06 AM PDT · 205 of 545
    daniel1212 to infool7
    Yes, of course. I too read and study however my conclusions agree with the Fathers, Doctors and Saints of the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus. Your conclusions it would seem do not.

    The uninspired words of such simply cannot be determinitive of what the NT church believed, for the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels) is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation.

    And in which Catholic distinctives are not manifest .

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 7:00:51 AM PDT · 202 of 545
    daniel1212 to Mark17
    I agree Dan, but sometimes one must thoroughly define what it means to “believe.”

    And why that pertains to, which is the context I was responding to.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:59:01 AM PDT · 201 of 545
    daniel1212 to Salvation
    Your Pope priest is excluding parts of Lumen Gentium and other modern teaching that TradCaths object to as being contrary to Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus , such as ( emphasis added):

    Lumen Gentium [1964]: 16. The Church recognizes that in many ways she is linked with those who, being baptized, are honored with the name of Christian, though they do not profess the faith in its entirety or do not preserve unity of communion with the successor of Peter. (Cf. Gal. 4:6; Rom. 8:15-16 and 26)

    For there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. (Cf. Jn. 16:13) They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ. They also recognize and accept other sacraments within their own Churches or ecclesiastical [Protestant] communities...

    They also share with us in prayer and other spiritual benefits. Likewise we can say that in some real way they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power. Some indeed He has strengthened to the extent of the shedding of their blood...

    those who are baptized in these communities are, by Baptism, incorporated in Christ and thus are in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church .”62 http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:39:08 AM PDT · 200 of 545
    daniel1212 to Concentrate
    Hiya! How can you tell if you’re saved” This is a real and serious question. My sister is “saved” and we are not talking right now, so please pray for me and let me know if I’m “saved”.

    Its not according to the "salvation" poster, since that means "damnation" to all who do not literally consume the same (but metaphysical) body and blood of Christ that died on the cross. Instead, spiritual and eternal life is obtained by believing the gospel message with a humble, poor and repentant heart, a faith which purifies the heart and is counted for righteousness, making you accepted in the Beloved on His account, and which effects the fruit of obedience by His Spirit:

    The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. (Psalms 34:18)

    The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) 37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

    Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. (Acts 2:41)

    And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us ; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith . (Acts 15:7-9)

    And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; (Colossians 2:13)

    For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: (1 Peter 3:18)

    Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood , to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus . (Romans 3:25-26)

    But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness . (Romans 4:5)

    To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved . (Ephesians 1:6)

    But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (Romans 6:17-18)

    That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit . (Romans 8:4)

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:18:52 AM PDT · 194 of 545
    daniel1212 to Steelfish
    Before the Bible there was the Church. If Protestants don’t believe in the ONE true Church, why on earth do they use the Church’s calendar to celebrate Christmas, Good Friday, and Easter on the same dates observed by the one Church.

    Actually they should not if the the dates or celebrations are not seen in the life of the NT church, while regardless, your logic is self-defeating, since it means that since the NT church inherited some things from Judaism then they should have submitted to the magisterial power of such. Thus you invalid the NT church.

    Looks like the early Church fathers, some of whom were disciples of St. John, were all wrong.

    Also wrong. Name more than one so-called church "father" that can verifiably said to be a direct disciple of John, and where they clearly taught Catholic distinctives (contrary to the inspired NT record ) and why we must accept that a disciple will always reflect the teachings of their master, unless by wholly inspired words, and what writings of CFs or Roman popes were the latter? You are simply parroting specious RC polemics.

    And the thousands of martyrs, saints, and theologians of the last two millennia all got it wrong. And the tens of thousands of historians, Protestant theologians, atheists, and and scientists from all other faiths from ordinary workpeople to Kings and Queens who converted to Catholicism all got it wrong.

    Indeed, progressively so, if not all wrong (or necessarily all salvifically),

    for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: (Matthew 7:13)

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:18:43 AM PDT · 193 of 545
    daniel1212 to Salvation; aMorePerfectUnion; tjd1454; MayflowerMadam; sparklite2; Steelfish; JesusIsLord; ...
    Again I’ll take Christ’s words over any others.

    No, you do not, as instead you wrest His words to mean something contrary to His other words, personally and by His Spirit. You hold that John 6:53 is literal, meaning one must physically consume the non-bloody body and blood of Christ under the appearance of (non-existent) bread and wine in order to have life in them.

    Yet even in the same chapter the Lord said

    "As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me." (John 6:57) "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4) Thus

    Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. (John 4:34)

    Which corresponds to the interpretation the Lord gave to those who presumed He was going to feed them His body and bread on earth, as Moses fed them literal bread:

    What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (John 6:62-63)

    And there is nothing about the metaphysical explanation Catholicism must resort to since her priests cannot change bread and wine into the actual manifestly physical bloody flesh and blood.

    Moreover, NOWHERE in Scripture is spiritual life obtained by literally physically eating anything, much less by NT priests feeding them, but instead, spiritual life is obtained by believing the gospel message, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9; Eph. 1:13)

    Instead the primary work of NT pastors is that of prayer and preaching. (Act 6:3,4; 2 Tim.4:2) by which they “feed the flock” (Acts 20:28; 1Pt. 5:2) for the word is what is called spiritual food, "milk," (1Co. 3:22; 1Pt. 1:22) and "meat," (Heb. 5:12-14) which is said to "nourish" the souls of believers and build them up, (1 Timothy 4:6; Acts 20:32) and believing it is how the lost obtain life in themselves. (Acts 15:7-9; cf. Psalms 19:7)

    See extensive examination here , by God's grace.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:18:13 AM PDT · 192 of 545
    daniel1212 to nobamanomore; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; Biggirl; bonfire
    Internet Troll A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues. Such arguments can happen on blogs, I’m sick of the same three internet anti catholic trolls

    So being anti catholic is the problem, but not "aniti, for you have a TradCath posting on a historical doctrine which damns all those who will not submit to the pope, and by her own argumentation excludes all who reject Cath Eucharistic theology from having spiritual and eternal life, and you relegate this as being an "extremely trivial issue," and those who contend against it are wrong because it offends Catholics in an elitist church?

    But if it is only three then I hope more will join. It was a RC who posted this extremely provocative thread, why do you not attack her, except because of your own bias?

    Meanwhile, with 26 or 27 posts out of 177 in response to what you define as a trivial issue, then it seems you are a troll, one who whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues. Such arguments can happen on blogs. I’m tired of such trolling myself.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 5:16:30 AM PDT · 181 of 545
    daniel1212 to Salvation
    I’ll take the words of Jesus Christ: “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you” (Jn 6:53). And where do you find that Holy Communion? In the Catholic Church!

    So therefore you exclude all those who reject the Cath (erroneous , metaphysical) l understanding of the Lord's supper from having eternal life. Meaning you reject Lumen Gentium on that, and expose yourself as a schismatic TradCath. At least you made that damnably clear.