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Any Version, Except King James, Bible Discussion
Self | 4/8/2017 | madison10

Posted on 04/08/2017 8:07:59 AM PDT by madison10

The King James Version was the Bible I memorized as a child, but as an adult I find it unreadable for anything EXCEPT the passages I already know.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
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To: Jonty30

My favorite Bible is a tie between the NRSV Catholic Edition and the Jerusalem Bible.


21 posted on 04/08/2017 8:43:31 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: madison10

I once asked a Greek scholar if the Greek had a ‘high’ Greek, similar to the high English found in KJV. He said, “No”. The high English appeals to the flesh of many, but has no spiritual benefit.


23 posted on 04/08/2017 8:56:55 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: madison10

Although it is not perfect, I like the KJV and have at least 20-30 different editions of it. I wish someone would produce a Catholic version of the KJV. The closest you can come to that now is the Cambridge editions that include the “Apocrypha”.

Peter Kreeft has also wanted a Catholic KJV for some time: http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=0400-kreeft


24 posted on 04/08/2017 8:58:39 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Only select a word for word translation Bible (e.g. NASB, ESV, New King James). Stay away from paraphrased Bibles like NIV, Living Word, etc. God’s Word is true. Men are liars.

Very wise (and biblical!) advice.

25 posted on 04/08/2017 9:01:26 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: aimhigh; Mark17
My memory fails me miserably, but I recall when I DID comparative studies, that every revival across the globe (In modern .. 200 plus years, times ..) have all been under KJV preaching.

I have NEVER heard a fire and brimstone preacher (Phil Kidd, Lester Roloff, etc.) preach from anything BUT the KJV.

I was saved at the age of 33 in 1981 and I was rooted and grounded in the faith under KJV preaching.

My mind can NOT accept other words.

26 posted on 04/08/2017 9:02:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

NIV is a translation, not a paraphrase


27 posted on 04/08/2017 9:03:51 AM PDT by NEPA (Repeal the 17th)
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To: NEPA

For reading large passages - say the Book of Romans - I prefer the NLT or the Holman. For closer study, I prefer the NASB. I also like Tyndale’s translation:

“And as Moses lift up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lift up, that none which believeth in him perish: but have eternal life.

God so loved the world, that he gave his only son for the intent, that none that believe in him, should perish: But should have everlasting life. For God sent not his son into the world, to condemn the world: But that the world through him, might be saved. He that believeth on him shall not be condemned. But he that believeth not, is condemned all ready, because he believeth not in the name of the only son of God.” - modern spelling

http://www.faithofgod.net/WTNT/john_3.html


28 posted on 04/08/2017 9:07:15 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The NIV is not a paraphrase.


29 posted on 04/08/2017 9:11:25 AM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: madison10

I like the Dead Sea Scroll version.


30 posted on 04/08/2017 9:11:55 AM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: georgiegirl

:) The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls one of the best for Bible scholars.

People died getting the Bible into the hands of the common man, for that I am grateful.


31 posted on 04/08/2017 9:24:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

You should learn how to translate it for yourself, that is the whole point. I mean, eveyr atheist I meet tells me the Bible has been translated and retranslated and who inows what is in it now, but then they make no effort to read original texts directly derived from the hebrew virtual word for word transcription.

The KjV is difficult to read because it is not English, but really Hebrew using english words.


32 posted on 04/08/2017 9:27:50 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: madison10

I’ve alwayas found the JB Phillips version to be precise, easy to read.


33 posted on 04/08/2017 9:28:11 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: NEPA

If it is, then the znaiV is oneof the worst translations ever. It simply does not follow thenhebrew texts and even leaves some huge meanings aside that the KjV kept.


34 posted on 04/08/2017 9:29:52 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: madison10

The difficulty with the Authorized Version (aka King James or KJV) is that most people educated after ~1970 haven’t learned to read Elizabethan English (as almost all of us whose education began earlier did by reading Shakespeare, poetry,etc.) or to use a prescriptive dictionary through which older meanings are readily discerned.

That said, the modicum of effort required to use the AV is almost always more than repaid by the richness of language and the sense of walking hand in hand with our forebears for whom it eas THE BIBLE.

I find most newer translations aesthetically flat and without impact. But, in fairness, when I was small, the VV was being replaced by the RSV and just preferred the sound of the AV. Newer translations even make the RSV sound decent.


35 posted on 04/08/2017 9:51:54 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Islam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Jonty30
Every Bible uses the same Greek and Hebrew scriptures that are preserved by the Catholic church.

Yes, and it is not the hearers or readers of whatever translation that are just before God, but the doers.
36 posted on 04/08/2017 10:11:07 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Jonty30
Every Bible uses the same Greek and Hebrew scriptures that are preserved by the Catholic church.

What would the Jews have ever done without the Catholic Church preserving their own scriptures for them?

37 posted on 04/08/2017 10:14:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You’re welcome to point out the translation errors of the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures that the CC preserves. I’m not aware of any.


38 posted on 04/08/2017 10:20:44 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

You’re in turn welcome to point out any failures among the Jewish people in preserving their own scripture themselves. It’s the height of arrogance to presume that your church was responsible.


39 posted on 04/08/2017 10:25:05 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CatoRenasci

Northrop Frye’s “The Great Code” is a marvelous argument for the continued respect for the KJV. The majesty of the text requires one to slow down and consider what is the true meaning of the verses. The glib modern versions are too easy to read.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/318117.The_Great_Code


40 posted on 04/08/2017 10:27:05 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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