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Is There A Purgatory?
In Plain Site ^ | 02/26/2015 | Jason Engwer

Posted on 02/26/2015 1:41:17 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To Roman Catholics the "doctrine" of purgatory offers some "solace" and comfort. They understand that nothing unclean can enter into the presence of God... that way they can commit "small sins" like lying or cursing and still be heaven eligible with just a little taste of hell.

It is a false "hope" offered to the unregenerate , that somehow that can make heaven on their own merits

1 posted on 02/26/2015 1:41:17 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...

ping


2 posted on 02/26/2015 1:42:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

::snort::


3 posted on 02/26/2015 1:45:25 PM PST by piusv
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To: RnMomof7

Most of the people here, I think, would rather purgawhig or purgasocialist than purgatory.


4 posted on 02/26/2015 1:46:51 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: RnMomof7

“Burning off sins” to many is actually a horrifying concept, and not biblical. The Bible talks about Abraham’s Bosom, the place where believers went prior to Jesus ascension. Now, to be absent from the body, is to be present with Christ Jesus! Hell is real, but Jesus paid the price so that no one has to go there!!!


5 posted on 02/26/2015 1:48:25 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To believe is purgatory is to 'deny' the finished work of Christ. Furthermore...Just because someone wants to believe theirs a purgatory does not make it so.


6 posted on 02/26/2015 1:49:08 PM PST by caww
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To: RnMomof7

If there is, I’m sure it will involve the reading of endless religion forum debates.


7 posted on 02/26/2015 1:49:26 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: RnMomof7

Purgatory is not biblical.

The bible says it’s appointed once for man to die, after that the judgement.
The only way to have our sins forgiven and cleansed is by the blood of Jesus.


8 posted on 02/26/2015 1:49:48 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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If there is, I’m sure it will involve the reading of endless religion forum debates.

Good grief! I'm dead!

9 posted on 02/26/2015 1:51:15 PM PST by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: RnMomof7

I like the title, I like the title.


10 posted on 02/26/2015 1:52:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Didn’t ISIL “purge with fire” that Muslim Jordanian pilot?

So the concept is there for using fire to purge. It’s not just Christian.


11 posted on 02/26/2015 1:57:26 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: RnMomof7

“Purgatory” is right here on planet earth. Being extra good this time around so I won’t have to come back again.


12 posted on 02/26/2015 1:57:30 PM PST by DefeatCorruption
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To: American Constitutionalist

I know. It’s a fund raising foundation!


13 posted on 02/26/2015 2:01:02 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: RnMomof7

In the 20 period after leaving the Catholic Church, prior to having a real born again experience (a slow motion process that lasted about 6 years), I often speculated that perhaps purgatory is real and we are all experiencing it with what we call “life”.

On some days, that thought returns to me.


14 posted on 02/26/2015 2:01:05 PM PST by L,TOWM (Is it still too soon to start shooting?)
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As I understand it, the early princes of the church initiated infant baptism so a person would be less likely to die before being baptized, in which case they’d be sent to hell.

It was later decided, though, that since sinning while living post-baptism was worse than sinning before, it was too hard living an entire baptized life without serious sins.

So, baptism was put off until late in life to dilute the effect of sins committed after baptism.

Then they realized that an unbaptized prince could fall off his horse as an adult, hit his head on a rock, and die before a priest could get there to baptize him.

The solution was to invent purgatory. Now, the believer could take out the eternal insurance of infant baptism, live of life of post-baptism sins, and work off the punishment after death but before the devil could take him.


15 posted on 02/26/2015 2:01:28 PM PST by sparklite2
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Purgatory is one of those concepts that tells me that the Catholic Church has no idea what scripture really teaches.


16 posted on 02/26/2015 2:02:28 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Legatus

With Obama in charge, if it ain’t Purgatory, it’s a very good simulation.


17 posted on 02/26/2015 2:05:21 PM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Hebrews 10:8-18 tells us clearly...Grace completely trumps anything to do with purgatory...a catholic manufactured belief...

Jesus said,.. ‘Here I am, I have come to do your will.’ He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE for all............ by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
‘This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.’ Then he adds:
‘Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.’

And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin.”

Because of Jesus we have been forgiven. There is no longer any sacrifice required. ... That is what purgatory is all about – an “additional sacrifice” for venial sins. To say that purgatory is a necessary purification is to deny that the grace of God is sufficient.

1 John 1:9 says,..... “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

In 2 Corinthians 12:9, Paul said that Christ’s grace was sufficient for him.

Indeed, Christ’s grace is sufficient for us all. Praise God!


18 posted on 02/26/2015 2:06:32 PM PST by caww
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To: Legatus

LOL


19 posted on 02/26/2015 2:07:56 PM PST by piusv
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....”Purgatory is one of those concepts that tells me that the Catholic Church has no idea what scripture really teaches”....

It could be said as well...they have no assurance of salvation or understanding of the completed work of Christ...His death, His burial or His Resurrection. Not to mention the work of His Holy Spirit.

It's not uncommon for many cults to believe much of what Christianity teaches and uses it's verbiage to mask the underlying beliefs that so oppose Jesus and his true teachings. Catholicism does this as well...it's a system designed to retain the priesthood and keep people bound to Rome.

20 posted on 02/26/2015 2:12:46 PM PST by caww
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