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To: RnMomof7

“Burning off sins” to many is actually a horrifying concept, and not biblical. The Bible talks about Abraham’s Bosom, the place where believers went prior to Jesus ascension. Now, to be absent from the body, is to be present with Christ Jesus! Hell is real, but Jesus paid the price so that no one has to go there!!!


5 posted on 02/26/2015 1:48:25 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Didn’t ISIL “purge with fire” that Muslim Jordanian pilot?

So the concept is there for using fire to purge. It’s not just Christian.


11 posted on 02/26/2015 1:57:26 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Hebrews 10:8-18 tells us clearly...Grace completely trumps anything to do with purgatory...a catholic manufactured belief...

Jesus said,.. ‘Here I am, I have come to do your will.’ He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE for all............ by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
‘This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.’ Then he adds:
‘Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.’

And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin.”

Because of Jesus we have been forgiven. There is no longer any sacrifice required. ... That is what purgatory is all about – an “additional sacrifice” for venial sins. To say that purgatory is a necessary purification is to deny that the grace of God is sufficient.

1 John 1:9 says,..... “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

In 2 Corinthians 12:9, Paul said that Christ’s grace was sufficient for him.

Indeed, Christ’s grace is sufficient for us all. Praise God!


18 posted on 02/26/2015 2:06:32 PM PST by caww
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